having the interfaces track one another was in fact the secret sauce 
that made it work.  i can pull any of the links and it contines to ping 
with minimal interruption.

cheers!



----- Original Message -----
From: John Neiberger 
Date: Friday, March 7, 2003 11:42 am
Subject: Re: it started out as a really good idea ... [7:64638]

> That's an excellent point.  With this design you run a risk of
> asymmetrical routing.  To solve this, in the HSRP configuration on 
> eachrouter have the e0 interface track the e1 interface and vice-
> versa. 
> That way, if you pull a cable on one side, this triggers failover on
> both sides.
> 
> Give that a shot, I think it will work.
> 
> John
> 
> >>> "Priscilla Oppenheimer"  3/6/03 4:23:46 PM
> >>>
> Um, he already has both the E0s in the same subnet and both the 
> E1s in
> the
> same subnet, according to his config.
> 
> His drawing is confusing but I think he's got PC1 and both E0s in
> subnet
> 10.3.0.0/16, say on a hub or a switch.
> 
> He's got PC2 and both E1s in subnet 10.4.0.0, on another hub or
> switch.
> 
> If the problem isn't related to misconfiguration of the default 
> gatewayon
> the PCs, I do have another theory. :-)
> 
> Say he pulls the E0 cable on Router 1. No problem, PC1 will start
> using
> Router2.
> 
> Then he pings from PC1 to PC2. The ping will probably get there but
> what
> about the reply coming back?
> 
> What happens if PC2 is using Router 1 and Router 1 has no way to send
> PC2's
> packet from itself to Router 2 due to the missing cable, not to 
> mentionlack
> of any routing protocol configured.
> 
> Think about it! :-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> > 
> > ""garrett allen""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > i have a need for a high availability solution for a default
> > gateway
> > > configuration.  just finished the ccdp and thought it might be
> > > interesting to try hsrp on a pair of 2514's.  put some of
> > that theory
> > > to work.  instead of highly resiliant i've managed to
> > configure it for
> > > mass failure.  arg.., not exactly what i had in mind.  now,
> > any time i
> > > take down 1 of the 4 links, the connect between 2 remote
> > hosts dies.
> > > this is in a lab (production is not a lab, production is not
> > a lab...)
> > > so it is a mystery i would like to solve, but it is not
> > critical.
> > >
> > > here is the basic config (hope it makes it):
> > >
> > > pc host 1  -----+----- e0 router 1, e1 ----+---------  pc
> > host 2
> > >                 |                          |
> > >                 |----- e0 router 2, e1 ----|
> > >
> > > the routers act as a default gateway between the internal
> > network
> > > (represented by pc host 1) and the external world
> > (represented by pc
> > > host 2).  i have used 10.3 and 10.4 /16 as the addresses for
> > each side
> > > of the divide.  i want to run hsrp on both sets of router
> > interfaces so
> > > that in the event a router or an interface fails, the traffic
> > impact is
> > > minimized.  in the real world pc host 2 will be a firewall
> > and there
> > > will be other hosts off that segment as well
> > >
> > > looks easy.  sounds plausible.  read the cisco docs.  looks
> > like it
> > > should work.  minimal incantations before tickling the
> > keyboard.  key
> > > in the configs and it fires up nicely. do the show standby
> > thingee and
> > > all looks cool.  can ping the 2 stations end to end.  most
> > excellent.
> > > put a router in debug mode.  when i pull one of the 4 router
> > cables the
> > > router goes through a state change but no bits make it to the
> > far end.
> > > not even the shiney ones.  bitstream courtesy of ping.
> > >
> > > maybe i misunderstood what hsrp was suppose to do.  the
> > configs are
> > > below, along with the show standby results.  both are 2514's
> > (2 aui's)
> > > and both are running 12.2(1d).  probably forgot to put the
> > interface in
> > > mumble mode or something equally easy.  no laughter, please.
> > 
> > 
> > HSRP assumes the ehternet interfaces to be on the same subnet.
> > your ehternet
> > side is on two different subnets. hence - no failover.
> > 
> > to get this to work using 2514's:
> > 
> > 
> > E0----------2514_1-----------E1
> > 
> > E0----------2514_2-----------E1
> > 
> > 
> > the e0's on the same subnet, the e1's on the same subnet
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > router 1
> > > interface Ethernet0
> > >  ip address 10.3.255.2 255.255.0.0
> > >  no ip route-cache
> > >  no ip mroute-cache
> > >  standby 1 priority 200 preempt
> > >  standby 1 ip 10.3.0.2
> > > !
> > > interface Ethernet1
> > >  ip address 10.4.254.2 255.255.0.0
> > >  no ip route-cache
> > >  no ip mroute-cache
> > >  standby 2 priority 200 preempt
> > >  standby 2 ip 10.4.254.10
> > >
> > >
> > > router 2
> > > interface Ethernet0
> > >  ip address 10.3.255.1 255.255.0.0
> > >  no ip route-cache
> > >  no ip mroute-cache
> > >  standby 1 priority 225 preempt
> > >  standby 1 ip 10.3.0.2
> > > !
> > > interface Ethernet1
> > >  ip address 10.4.254.1 255.255.0.0
> > >  no ip route-cache
> > >  no ip mroute-cache
> > >  standby 2 priority 150 preempt
> > >  standby 2 ip 10.4.254.10
> > >
> > > results of show standby
> > > Router1#show standby
> > > Ethernet0 - Group 1
> > >   Local state is Standby, priority 200, may preempt
> > >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> > >   Next hello sent in 00:00:00.940
> > >   Hot standby IP address is 10.3.0.2 configured
> > >   Active router is 10.3.255.1 expires in 00:00:09, priority
> > 225
> > >   Standby router is local
> > >   20 state changes, last state change 00:22:34
> > > Ethernet1 - Group 2
> > >   Local state is Active, priority 200, may preempt
> > >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> > >   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.676
> > >   Hot standby IP address is 10.4.254.10 configured
> > >   Active router is local
> > >   Standby router is 10.4.254.1 expires in 00:00:08
> > >   Standby virtual mac address is 0000.0c07.ac02
> > >   17 state changes, last state change 00:23:26
> > > Router1#
> > >
> > > Router2#show standby
> > > Ethernet0 - Group 1
> > >   Local state is Active, priority 225, may preempt
> > >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> > >   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.010
> > >   Hot standby IP address is 10.3.0.2 configured
> > >   Active router is local
> > >   Standby router is 10.3.255.2 expires in 00:00:09
> > >   Standby virtual mac address is 0000.0c07.ac01
> > >   24 state changes, last state change 00:22:04
> > > Ethernet1 - Group 2
> > >   Local state is Standby, priority 150, may preempt
> > >   Hellotime 3 holdtime 10
> > >   Next hello sent in 00:00:01.272
> > >   Hot standby IP address is 10.4.254.10 configured
> > >   Active router is 10.4.254.2 expires in 00:00:09, priority
> > 200
> > >   Standby router is local
> > >   32 state changes, last state change 00:22:25
> > > Router2#
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