""Mike"" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Since the spoke routers are NBMA, multicast hello's will not locate the > neighbor. The ospf router neighbor command must be used to manually identify > the neighbor so routing updates can be exchanged. I'm not sure why you > would want to implement in this way, but it will work.
Parkhurst is attempting to tach a lesson about the neighbor statement. Unfortunately, the lesson appears not be be complete. You say it should work. So I srt this one up again. Observe: Router 1 OSPF database excerpt OSPF Router with ID (1.1.1.1) (Process ID 1) Router Link States (Area 0) Link ID ADV Router Age Seq# Checksum Link count 1.1.1.1 1.1.1.1 138 0x80000003 0x005E7F 4 2.2.2.2 2.2.2.2 214 0x80000004 0x00D1F1 1 206.6.6.6 206.6.6.6 138 0x80000002 0x00C348 1 Router 1 routing table: Gateway of last resort is not set 1.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 1.1.1.1 is directly connected, Loopback1 10.0.0.0/30 is subnetted, 2 subnets C 10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1.2 C 10.1.1.4 is directly connected, Serial1.3 R1# Router 2 OSPF database excerpt OSPF Router with ID (2.2.2.2) (Process ID 1) Router Link States (Area 0) Link ID ADV Router Age Seq# Checksum Link count 1.1.1.1 1.1.1.1 198 0x80000003 0x5E7F 4 2.2.2.2 2.2.2.2 273 0x80000004 0xD1F1 1 206.6.6.6 206.6.6.6 199 0x80000002 0xC348 1 Router 2 routing table: 2.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 2.2.2.2 is directly connected, Loopback1 10.0.0.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 10.1.1.0 is directly connected, Serial1 R2# Router 3 OSPF database excerpt OSPF Router with ID (206.6.6.6) (Process ID 1) Router Link States (Area 0) Link ID ADV Router Age Seq# Checksum Link count 1.1.1.1 1.1.1.1 238 0x80000003 0x5E7F 4 2.2.2.2 2.2.2.2 313 0x80000004 0xD1F1 1 206.6.6.6 206.6.6.6 238 0x80000002 0xC348 1 Router 3 routing table Gateway of last resort is not set 3.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 3.3.3.3 is directly connected, Loopback0 10.0.0.0/30 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 10.1.1.4 is directly connected, Serial1 R3# Change the spoke ospf network types from non broadcast to point-to-multipoint and ( sample from one router, but it is true for all:) pops right up: 01:16:07: OSPF: Database request to 2.2.2.2 01:16:07: OSPF: sent LS REQ packet to 10.1.1.2, length 12 01:16:07: OSPF: Synchronized with 206.6.6.6 on Serial1.3, state FULL 01:16:07: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 206.6.6.6 on Serial1.3 from LOADING to FULL, Loading Done 01 R1#:16:07: OSPF: Rcv DBD from 2.2.2.2 on Serial1.2 seq 0x9C5 opt 0x42 flag 0x1 l en 32 mtu 1500 state EXCHANGE 01:16:07: OSPF: Exchange Done with 2.2.2.2 on Serial1.2 01:16:07: OSPF: Send DBD to 2.2.2.2 on Serial1.2 seq 0x9C5 opt 0x42 flag 0x0 len 32 01:16:07: OSPF: Synchronized with 2.2.2.2 on Serial1.2, state FULL 01:16:07: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr 2.2.2.2 on Serial1.2 from LOADING to FU LL, Loading Done R1# and routing table has ospf routes: Gateway of last resort is not set 1.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 1.1.1.1 is directly connected, Loopback1 2.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets O IA 2.2.2.2 [110/65] via 10.1.1.2, 00:00:02, Serial1.2 3.0.0.0/32 is subnetted, 1 subnets O IA 3.3.3.3 [110/65] via 10.1.1.6, 00:00:02, Serial1.3 10.0.0.0/8 is variably subnetted, 4 subnets, 2 masks O 10.1.1.2/32 [110/64] via 10.1.1.2, 00:00:02, Serial1.2 C 10.1.1.0/30 is directly connected, Serial1.2 O 10.1.1.6/32 [110/64] via 10.1.1.6, 00:00:03, Serial1.3 C 10.1.1.4/30 is directly connected, Serial1.3 R1# as to whether this is one of the vagueries of the IOS versions I am running, I cannot say. But even speaking teoretically, a point-to-point link will not form a proper adjacency with an NMBA link, neighbor staement or no. Each side thinks the other is like itself, and they are not the same. Examples to the contrary are welcome. > > Regards > > ""The Long and Winding Road"" wrote in > message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Ran into something in Parkhurst's OSPF book while studying tonight. > Looking > > for validation of my observation. > > > > The example: OSPF over frame relay > > > > The topology: hub and spoke, with a twist. The hub uses subinterfaces ( > one > > to each spoke router ) and the spokes use physical interfaces. > > > > Now, the Parkhurst examples show leaving the physical interfaces as ospf > > type non-broadcast, change the ospf timers on the subinterfaces, place > > neighbor statements on the spoke routers ( physical interfaces ) and all > is > > well. > > > > Except I don't believe it works this way. > > > > The subinterfaces are point-to-point networks, and expect the other side > to > > be a point-to-point connection and adjacency. the physical interfaces are > > non-broadcast, and expect DR elections to occur, something the router with > > the subinterfaces will not do. > > > > I believe the correct solution is to make the physical interfaces ospf > type > > point-to-multipoint. > > > > An alternative is to change the physical interfaces to ospf > point-to-point. > > > > In any case - can anyone else verify what I see and do not see - that > > Parkhurst chapter 11, example 3, pages 275-279 answer is incomplete? > > > > thanks. > > > > -- > > TANSTAAFL > > "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=65576&t=65532 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]