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Re: https://lists.purdue.edu/pipermail/citizendium-l/2006-October/000532.html

Larry & All --

It being a weekend -- and I have miles to mulch before I sleep --
I will just give my bird's eye response to the discussion so far
and save the more point-by-point commentary for Monday, Monday.

The larger problems that I see here are these:

1.  Different perspective on exactly why projects like Nupedia, Wikepedia --
    not to mention a host of others of my acquaintance over the past 7 years --
    failed to achieve their lofty goals, despite the hints of promise they 
showed.

2.  The presence of largely implicit assumptions about organizational dynamics 
and
    group psychology that need to be examined with far more conscious 
deliberation
    than has yet to be done.  It is past the time for ''a priori'' blue-sky 
wishful
    thinking on this score.  The discussion of this factor needs to be carried 
out
    in the light of the masses of informal experience and formal research that 
have
    been accumulated in this area over the last 50 years, just that I recall, 
along
    with the poignant experiences that many of us have had with recent wiki 
sistems.

3.  In the effort to recruit researchers and scholars from academe and the 
professions,
    there is a need to understand the motivations and the needs of these 
diverse groups,
    along with the systems of roles and rewards that are already in place in 
their day jobs.

4.  If we don't want to keep sounding completely naive about many issues that 
have been
    undergoing fierce discussion on the intellectual scene, in and out of 
academe, for
    the last 50 years or so, then we need to catch up with the dialogue on 
knowledge
    that has been going on long before these groupware systems came on the 
scene.

That's enough for today ...

Jon Awbrey

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