On 7/2/22 11:57 AM, G.W. Haywood via clamav-users wrote:
Hi Grant,
Hi Ged,
I think Mr. Broekman has answered well enough, but I need to reply to you because I don't want you to think I've ignored you, Grant.
I didn't expect you to /personally/ reply. Though I do appreciate you going out of your way.
I don't know, it isn't my CDN. But I did give a link for further reading. I think there's enough there for a reasonable man, and I know you fit that description. :)
I read the link and I still have questions.Though the questions are somewhat academic as I am, have been, and will continue to use the prescribed method of freshclam.
Yes, it does. :)
I assume you are saying that "regularly" specifies what the cadence is. To which I maintain no it does not. I file my taxes /regularly/. Read /yearly/. I eat meals /regularly/. Read /multiple/ /times/ /a/ /day/. Halley's Comet passes the Earth /regularly/. Read /every/ /75/ /years/. Ergo /regularly/ can have wildly different cadences.
There's more to it than just whether or not an update is needed.
Fair enough.
To run a Content Delivery Network costs money. Abuse of it costs a lot of money unnecessarily - and there was chronic, egregious abuse.
I agree with all of that.
In my view, the providers of ClamAV went *well* beyond the call of duty before finally putting their metaphorical foot down. If it had been my own money, I would have been a lot less patient.
I am grateful for the larger team that supports / provides ClamAV.
It isn't just the traffic. There are processes hanging around waiting for slow connections as well. As of today, the daily file is around 185 Mbytes. Downloading it here would take a quarter of an hour. In the past two months freshclam here has taken an average of 2.9 seconds to download a diff file. Scale that up to the global demand and it's a factor of at least several hundred just on the process count.
I have no reason to doubt your statement.But I feel like the comments, especially the lack of definition of the /cadence/ of regularly fails to account for someone using a web browser to download files once every three years.
When people download 185 Mbytes instead of downloading a few kilobytes to get the same result it incurs very significant, unnecessary costs which are borne by those who provide the data - free of charge - to people who are routinely abusing the service. And they've been asked not to do it, so, well, it's just rude!
I would find it suspicious if someone were to say that downloading 185 MB once every three years is abuse of a system.
-- Grant. . . . unix || die
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