Hi

We will discuss "the future of clerezza" this week. Currently, I agree with 
Bertrand's opionen. IMO main problem was/is some fundamental differences in the 
course of action between clerezza committers. So, we developed a lot of CMS 
modules on top of clerezza but did not contribute any of these utils, tools etc.

Regards
Tsuy

On Nov 2, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Fabian Christ <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> moving Clerezza libs to Stanbol would be an option but I am wondering
> if the Stanbol community is strong enough to additionally maintain
> this code. The Stanbol code base is quite large with lots of modules
> and we already have to focus on some core components (and move the
> unmaintained stuff to contrib). So only moving the code does IMO solve
> only one part of the problem. The people behind the code should be
> willing to move and keep contributing. Otherwise I see the potential
> that the Stanbol team decides to switch entirely from Clerezza to
> other alternatives.
> 
> These are just my current thoughts without having any discussion on
> the Stanbol list.
> 
> Best,
> - Fabian
> 
> 2012/11/2 Tommaso Teofili <[email protected]>:
>> Hi Bertrand,
>> 
>> I recently just worked on the UIMA integration (you can have a look at my
>> presentation for the latest OSGi community event [1]) and I personally
>> don't think I'll be working on the CMS stuff in the near future.
>> I agree with you that at the moment it doesn't seem we have enough energy
>> to keep Clerezza as is and I'd see joining Apache Stanbol the more
>> reasonable move.
>> Could we aim to be a proper Stanbol subproject ?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tommaso
>> 
>> [1] : http://www.slideshare.net/teofili/adapting-apache-uima-to-osgi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/11/2 Bertrand Delacretaz <[email protected]>
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> We need to report to the Incubator PMC this month, I think it's a good
>>> opportunity to discuss the future of this project.
>>> 
>>> What I see is:
>>> 
>>> Very low activity related to Clerezza's core "semantic CMS" mission
>>> 
>>> Some activity related to Clerezza's reusable semantic libraries
>>> 
>>> Obvious decrease in commit activity since 2010:
>>> 
>>> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?path=%2Fincubator%2Fclerezza
>>> 
>>> Little activity on lists
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-clerezza-dev/ and
>>> jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA
>>> 
>>> Is anyone planning to work more on the core CMS parts soon?
>>> 
>>> Without that, I don't think the project can graduate as is, as the
>>> activity on its core parts is not sufficient to sustain a project,
>>> IMO.
>>> 
>>> The alternative would be to donate the semantic libs to Stanbol, and
>>> shut down the rest - people are free to fork the code elsewhere
>>> anyway.
>>> 
>>> WDYT?
>>> 
>>> -Bertrand
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Fabian
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