Hey Alan, we really like 4clojure. We've suggested using it for training most people at nilenso and we're very thankful to you and all the contributors for that! We (nilenso) would be up for picking up the hosting costs, and also some other operations or development work if needed.
It would be even better if we could work together and turn this into a community owned project (ex: clojurists together <http://clojuriststogether.org>). That might also assuage your concerns about data ownership. The questions, and solutions that the community has put together on 4clojure over the last decade are very valuable as a learning tool. Perhaps we can find a way to keep them around without attributing them to a user? One idea might be to deactivate all existing accounts, and remove the user data (email, passwords, other PII) etc while keeping the questions and solutions from those users. We would be sad to see 4clojure go away, hope we can find a way for it to live on. Cheers, Srihari On Tuesday, July 6, 2021 at 1:12:44 PM UTC+5:30 Robert P. Levy wrote: > Hi Alan, > > Just as a thought. If it's minimal work on your end (eg. if the folks > from Roam research who chimed in above pick it up) why not clear the > password hashes and let the new maintainer handle the communication that > passwords need to be reset? > > Rob > > On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 1:26 PM Alan Malloy <mallo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> TL;DR: Turning off 4clojure.com by the end of July 2021 >> >> Hello, 4clojure problem solvers. You've probably noticed SSL errors on >> 4clojure.com over the last week. The old decrepit system 4clojure runs >> on has finally gotten out of date enough that I can't even figure out how >> to get it recent enough that SSL certs will auto-renew anymore. >> >> In principle I could start from scratch on a new server and move 4clojure >> over, but I won't. 4clojure has been piggybacking along on a server that I >> use for personal reasons, and over the years I have less and less reason to >> keep paying for that server - it's now pretty much just 4clojure costing me >> an embarrassing amount of money every month because I haven't wanted to >> disappoint the community by shutting it down. This SSL thing is just what >> made me finally pull the trigger. >> >> I don't have a specific EOL date in mind, but sometime near the end of >> the month, since that's the billing cycle. Until that time, 4clojure still >> works, as long as you don't mind clicking through the security warnings - >> it really is still me hosting the site, and since the connection is still >> HTTPS (albeit with an invalid cert) I think that means your data is still >> safe. If you have solutions to problems you're proud of, you've still got >> some time to print them out and put them up on your refrigerator. >> >> I'm not seeking new maintainers. I'd feel uncomfortable handing over a >> database with so many email addresses and password hashes in it to anyone. >> The service has had a good run - just over a decade since the first >> release >> <https://github.com/4clojure/4clojure/commit/ff457d0b3b5f5e5a74316a1747809c25b84b3b5e>. >> >> I hope you enjoyed it during that time. >> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/clojure/385cdef8-fa40-47ba-b5b1-0b3a7cc34935n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/clojure/385cdef8-fa40-47ba-b5b1-0b3a7cc34935n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/clojure/d49cb64d-30f9-4839-a652-954bb0683608n%40googlegroups.com.
