On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:26 PM, cageface <milese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> As I said in the HN thread, I think you're right that getting started > with a productive clojure environment is harder than it has to be. > > However, as I also said in the thread, I think the *real* obstacles > for a noobie are the concepts in the language itself. Clojure is very > elegantly designed, but it builds on some very powerful and somewhat > difficult concepts. Stuart's book is a big help here but I'm afraid > that Clojure is simply over the heads of a lot of "noobs" anyway. > > So I wonder how much making the first few baby steps easier is really > going to help the uptake of Clojure. I have to imagine that the kind > of person that can't figure out a CLASSPATH is going to have his head > explode when he has to figure out how to restructure all his > iterations in terms of loop/recur. > > I had an easier time to pickup Haskell than clojure and I went with Haskell first so I was already familiar with functional programming when I got to clojure. I like clojure better but the first time I came to it, I couldn't figure out how the part were fitting together, dropped and came back later when I continued to hear good things about it on proggit. And I don't think borrowing CL's smugness is doing anyone any good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en