As I said in the HN thread, I think you're right that getting started with a productive clojure environment is harder than it has to be.
However, as I also said in the thread, I think the *real* obstacles for a noobie are the concepts in the language itself. Clojure is very elegantly designed, but it builds on some very powerful and somewhat difficult concepts. Stuart's book is a big help here but I'm afraid that Clojure is simply over the heads of a lot of "noobs" anyway. So I wonder how much making the first few baby steps easier is really going to help the uptake of Clojure. I have to imagine that the kind of person that can't figure out a CLASSPATH is going to have his head explode when he has to figure out how to restructure all his iterations in terms of loop/recur. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en