2011/1/18 Ken Wesson <kwess...@gmail.com>

> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Laurent PETIT <laurent.pe...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >> No menu options exist to create a
> >> new Clojure namespace .clj file,
> >
> > It does. You should see an option "Clojure File" in the "File > Create
> new"
> > menu.
>
> I don't.
>
> > If not, then probably there's a problem with the java perspective not
> being
> > refreshed.
>
> The install prompted me to restart Eclipse afterward, and I did do so.
>
> > That's more annoying now that people will more and more use the Eclipse
> > integrated "market place" to install ccw, and thus not follow the quick
> > install guide which explicitly says "Go to menu Window > Reset
> Perspective
> > ..".
>
> Restarting Eclipse was presumably supposed to suffice. No "quick
> install guide" was presented to me on install.
>
> > Will you please file an issue for this ?
>
> I don't have an account there, unless my gmail account is good for
> Google Code access.
>
> >> nor to create a REPL using the
> >> project dependencies,
> >
> > Not true.
>
> I saw this with my own eyes. Trust me.
>
> > Select any clj file of your project, or select the project's node, and
> > trigger the "Run > Clojure Application" command.
>
> I don't recall seeing such a command.
>
> Also, wouldn't such a command attempt to run a genclass -main rather
> than a project REPL? If it actually does the latter then it is
> grievously mis-named.
>
> > Please note that you have installed the stable version of CCW, version
> > 0.0.64, and that in this version the REPL is working, but "featureless".
> > If you want to help test future 0.2.0 version of CCW, you'll need to
> remove
> > version 0.0.64, and install the alternate feature from the ccw update
> site :
> >   * first uninstall CCW 0.0.64: Menu Help > About Eclipse > Installation
> > Detail > [Select "Counterclockwise ..", click Uninstall...]
> >   * follow the manual steps listed here
> >
> http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/clojure/Getting_Started_with_Eclipse_and_Counterclockwise
> >   * but instead of installing version 0.0.64, go to the "... Release
> > candidates version" category and check "Counterclockwise Feature REPL UI
> > Branch" version 0.2.0.RC04
>
> Sounds like a rather awkward procedure. Nobody much will try your beta
> version if a) it isn't advertised *anywhere*, so nobody even knows it
> exists, b) it requires a complicated procedure to install instead of
> point at something and click, and c) the so-called "stable" version
> does not seem to completely work properly out-of-the-box.
>
> >> I also clicked the
> >> change-perspective gadget after noticing it indicating a "Java"
> >> perspective, to see if there was a separate "Clojure" perspective to
> >> change to, which might make the desired options appear in the
> >> interface; also no dice.)
> >
> > I have good news for you: ccw documentation is linked from the main page
> of
> > the counterclockwise project, in the "Quick links" section, and it's
> neither
> > a pdf neither a video, plain old wiki page:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/wiki/Documentation
>
> That's a bit snarky. But no-one should have to read the documentation
> just to get it installed and to locate and use the most obvious
> features that have direct parallels in Enclojure. In particular,
> no-one has to with Enclojure. If there are extra install steps beyond
> "install and restart IDE" then there shouldn't be; if there are menu
> items whose names are misleading they should be renamed; etc.
>
>
You're reinforcing obvious statements.
Now I'm tired today, so I'll stop feed you. Sorry, but that's best, or I'll
get really upset.

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