On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Tal Liron <tal.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:25:21 PM UTC-5, Andy Fingerhut wrote: >> >> Tal, did you consider the possibility of staying with Clojure 1.2.1 and >> its libraries? Or was that not under consideration for some reason? >> > > It was a consideration, but the cons seemed to outweigh the pros. > > Staying with 1.2 meant not only staying with the Clojure core, which worked > fine, but also losing any progress on any of the contribs, which was frankly > more important to me than core language changes. Perhaps part of the really > big issue here is not Clojure per se, but the contribs. In one fell swoop, > the entire contrib universe for 1.2 was being deprecated. I saw no > commitment anywhere that bug fixes would be backported to the 1.2 contrib > library. (I'm not making a principled stand here: the clojure contrib > library as of 1.2 was very spotty in quality, and required many workarounds > for bugs in my code. I very much look forward to fixes there.) > To give some context: Contrib is not nor ever was a standard library. It was never maintained by the core team beyond providing the jar. It was simply a way to encourage community involvement in a young language. Given the near total lack of maintenance / improvement activity on any library packaged in monolithic Contrib in over a *year* is a big adoption warning signal. People involved in Clojure from the early days I think knew to stay clear of it for production code. It's unfortunate that you and Arthur have had to learn this the hard way catching Clojure at a transition. But the new system makes making an informed judgement about adopting a particular contrib library easier (separate activity, not tied to core release cycle, JIRA, etc). A PITA but Clojure adoption continues to grow quickly regardless of the opinions of various pundits and this change needs to happen now not later in order to scale community contributions w/o bogging down the activities of core. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
