I never have understood the obsession with moving the parens in Lisp to the same place they are in C-like languages. I'm not typing any less, and it certainly undermines the code = data (i.e. lisp lists / function calls) homoiconic representation. Is it "clearer"? Maybe to someone unaccustomed to Lisp, but it's a very superficial thing- you get used to it (and these days I screw up interpreting/writing my C-lang code bc/ I'm used to Lisp).
Regarding infix vs. postfix, it doesn't take a Lisper long to appreciate the advantages of prefix notation, e.g. (+ 1 8 9 3) vs 1 + 8 + 9 + 3. There is a (arguably, at least) Lisp out there with hardly any parens- Haskell. :D On Mar 25, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Jason Lewis <jasonlewi...@gmail.com> wrote: > NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! > > > > Jason Lewis > > Email jasonlewi...@gmail.com > > Twitter @canweriotnow > > Blog http://decomplecting.org > > About http://about.me/jason.lewis > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Kris Jenkins <krisajenk...@gmail.com> wrote: > As an interesting point of trivia, the idea of abandoning S-expressions for > some other notation actually pre-dates the first implementation of Lisp. > S-expressions were originally intended as a temporary measure, before a more > familiar representation - deemed M-expressions - could be formalized. But in > the words of John McCarthy: > > "The project of defining M-expressions precisely and compiling them or at > least translating them into S-expressions was neither finalized nor > explicitly abandoned. It just receded into the indefinite future, and a new > generation of programmers appeared who preferred internal notation to any > FORTRAN-like or ALGOL-like notation that could be devised." The History Of > Lisp > > In short, the idea of abandoning S-expressions has fair claim to be one of > the oldest ideas in Lisp. My personal theory about that is that by the time > someone knows enough Lisp to do a decent job of the translation, they no > longer see any problem... > > Kris > > On Monday, 25 March 2013 10:52:23 UTC, poetix wrote: > I really like the look of this: > > http://readable.sourceforge.net/ > > which defines a completely reversible transformation between e.g. > > > define fibfast(n) > if {n < 2} > n > fibup(n 2 1 0) > and > > (define (fibfast n) > (if (< n 2) > n > (fibup n 2 1 0))) > > and wonder how difficult it would be to support it (or something like it) > in/for Clojure. A coffeescript-like approach might be a good first step. > > Any thoughts? > > Dominic > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
