Thanks for that link Stu. It's quite a lot to take in but it's very useful.

As for *assertion-results*, it seems this has to be in the implementation,
because both Asserters and Runners need a concrete but detached way to
communicate.

Right now they both point to
test2.api.asserters/*assertion-results*<https://github.com/evanescence/test2/blob/master/src/test2/api/asserters.clj>.
But I'd really like to get rid of the concreteness of this if possible. But
even throwing exceptions to indicate assertion results won't do, because
the specific exception class to throw/catch is still too concrete.

Anyone have any ideas?


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Stuart Halloway
<stuart.hallo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Steven,
>
> A few thoughts:
>
> 1. You may want to look at
> https://github.com/clojure/test.generative/blob/master/data-model.org.
>
> 2. I don't think you want a ref for *assertion-results* -- I am not aware
> of any use cases that would need transactions. In any case the choice of
> reference type probably belongs in the impl, not the spec.
>
> Good luck with this!
> Stu
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Steven Degutis <sbdegu...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Test2 is a new testing lib for Clojure, where the power is its
>> simplicity, extensibility, and a 
>> SPEC<https://github.com/evanescence/test2/blob/master/SPEC.md> much
>> like Ring's.
>>
>> Github: https://github.com/evanescence/test2
>>
>> Some background: It came out of 
>> discussions<https://github.com/evanescence/test2/wiki/Communal-Brainstorming>
>>  with
>> the smart folks in #clojure, who were frustrated with the inflexibility of
>> existing libs, and intended this to be the spiritual successor to
>> clojure.test. We wanted something that was still simple like clojure.test,
>> but could be extended externally much more easily in case you wanted
>> features found in clojure.test, Midje, Speclj, or Expectations, or whatever
>> else.
>>
>> This is a pre-ANN because it's more of a call for extensions. I've
>> written one last night, 
>> test2-autorunner<https://github.com/evanescence/test2-autorunner>,
>> which took about an hour. This should give some idea of how easy it is and
>> how well-designed the SPEC was by the smart folks of #clojure. There are
>> some ideas at the bottom of the wiki, but of course any extensions are
>> encouraged.
>>
>> -Steven
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