We only have :use in a couple of "legacy" tests and two scratch
projects. We've switched from :use to :require .. :refer :all for
situations where :use used to make sense (primarily in a test ns where
we want to just refer in all of the ns being tested). We have a
handful of places where we :refer :all elsewhere because the code
reads better without ns aliases all over the place and we bring in a
lot of functions.

Certainly in blogs and documentation, :require .. :as short alias
seems a better approach for teaching / explaining things but I'm sure
I'm guilty of :use in earlier blog posts about Clojure (... checking
... yup, three blog posts from early 2012 contain :use, mostly with
:only, so those should be updated to use :require / :refer instead).

Sean

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Gary Trakhman <gary.trakh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We should scour clojuresphere for uses of 'use' and automatically post
> github issues to the projects of interest, and redefine the ns macro to
> issue a warning with use.
>
> Does anyone actually like 'use'?
>
> Require is always more evident.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Jozef Wagner <jozef.wag...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> +1, :use is IMO an antipattern.
>>
>> I hate it mainly in blogs, where they explain some new API. They :use like
>> 3 namespaces and you have to guess which fn is from which ns :)
>>
>> JW
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:50:50 PM UTC+2, Greg Slepak wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I read somewhere that :use is no longer encouraged, but I could
>>> be mistaken.
>>>
>>> From what I've read, it seems like most people agree that Clojure has too
>>> many ways of including/importing/referencing/requiring/using things:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://blog.8thlight.com/colin-jones/2010/12/05/clojure-libs-and-namespaces-require-use-import-and-ns.html
>>>
>>> The above gives a very nice explanation of all the various difference,
>>> but it also acknowledges their complexity.
>>>
>>> Since :use uses :require, and since :require can do everything that :use
>>> can, can we simplify Clojure programming a bit for newcomers by deprecating
>>> the use of :use? The situation in ClojureScript is even worse because it
>>> adds :require-macros on top of all the other ways of including files.
>>>
>>> Ideally, it would be awesome if there was just a single directive for
>>> everything, but perhaps there's some complicated low-level reason why that's
>>> not possible. :-\
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> P.S. If this has already been brought up you have my sincere apologies.
>>>
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