2013/10/9 Phillip Lord <phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk>
>
>
> Nando Breiter <na...@aria-media.com> writes:
> > To me, this begins to look more like a "user interface" issue than
> strictly
> > a programming issue. The folks who do interface design have a technique -
> > "pretend it's magic". What would the solution look like if it was
> "magic" (
> > setting all programming considerations aside for the moment) ?
>
>
> This is, indeed, the case. When teaching programming to new programmers
> the minimum of pain points is an important consideration. At the moment,
> clojure is quite hard to get going with.
>
> Of course, Java is a total pain to get going with also ("hello new
> programmer, this is an IDE -- just ignore most of it"), so this isn't
> the only consideration.
>
>
> > The student installs something ... opens something ... and something
> just
> > works. How would you flesh that out?
>
>
> Someone else installs something for the student.
>
> A persistant REPL would be nice (although, of course, as most evaluative
> programmers restart periodically to avoid a balked environment, it might
> introduce problems as well).
>
> A nice simple environment is key, but with a good path to more complex
> functionality, as they become familiar the environment. I'd love to have
> an IDE with a "newbie" mode which took away all the nonsense, and then
> slowly turned it on with a "here's a new feature" dialog. Guess that's
> not going to happen any time soon!
>
A web based simplified development environment, but directly connected to
github underneath, and with a never stopped VM for each student (can be
snapshotted, though).
When time comes to know better, switch to the editor/IDE of your choice and
get all things back from the github repo (but the persistent VM).
?
>
> Phil
>
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