Thanks for your response Jim.
Is there any alternative solution to Openshift that supports the TB and 
Immutant combo, that you recommend?

On Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:47:14 PM UTC-5, Jim Crossley wrote:
>
> Unfortunately not, Rodrigo. Frankly, TorqueBox on OpenShift is not a very 
> happy experience, mostly due to bundler and very limited resources on the 
> free OpenShift gears. Until we get those issues worked out, I don't want to 
> encourage anyone to combine TB and Immutant on OpenShift.
>
> Also, we're kinda in a wait-and-see mode while the OpenShift guys 
> integrate Docker, as container images should be a lot easier to work with 
> than cartridges.
>
> So you're ahead of us at the moment. We expect to catch up, just not sure 
> when.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:45 PM, rdelcueto <rdel...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> Dear Jim,
>>
>> I just began playing with Immutant and TorqueBox.
>> I realized the polyglot-openshift-quickstart* @ *GitHub is marked as 
>> obsolete. I found links to newer versions of immutant-quickstart and 
>> torquebox-quickstart, though as separate applications.
>> Is there documentation or a tutorial on how to get TorqueBox and Immutant 
>> merged into a single OpenShift application, ala "lein immutant overlay 
>> torquebox"?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 9, 2013 11:14:54 AM UTC-5, Jim Crossley wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rodrigo,
>>>
>>> I'm one of the developers of TorqueBox and Immutant. Your email prompted 
>>> me to re-watch a screencast [1] I made in March showing how to use them 
>>> together. I realized things have changed a little since then, so I added a 
>>> few annotations to the video highlighting the differences. Hopefully enough 
>>> to get you up and experimenting.
>>>
>>> As you've probably figured out, both TorqueBox and Immutant are 
>>> integrated stacks, bundling some commodity services that most non-trivial 
>>> applications need, e.g. scheduling, caching, and messaging. The intent of 
>>> any integrated platform is to relieve administration burden. But that only 
>>> works for you if the inherent choices within that stack fit the needs of 
>>> your app. We think/hope default Immutant configuration and abstractions 
>>> (e.g. queues, topics, request/respond) offers a good balance to fit a wide 
>>> variety of apps.
>>>
>>> If simple integration between Ruby and Clojure apps is your chief goal, 
>>> I think Immutant/TorqueBox is compelling, but I'm biased. I would 
>>> definitely recommend using some sort of messaging broker, though, i.e. 
>>> don't mix Clojure and Ruby in the same source file or project.
>>>
>>> Performance and security concerns are so application-specific I hate to 
>>> make any generic statements about them other than, "be fast and secure". ;-)
>>>
>>> But do feel free to bother us in #torquebox or #immutant on freenode 
>>> with any questions about your particular app/needs.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>> http://immutant.org/news/**2013/03/07/overlay-screencast/<http://immutant.org/news/2013/03/07/overlay-screencast/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM, rdelcueto <rdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi everyone,
>>>> I'm about to start working on building a site for a startup company.
>>>>
>>>> We are a small team, and currently they've been coding the site using 
>>>> RoR (Ruby on Rails). I was thinking Clojure might be better suited for the 
>>>> task, specially because we'll need to implement a backend which is robust, 
>>>> scalable and secure, but also we'll need flexibility, which I think the 
>>>> RoR 
>>>> framework won't shine at all.
>>>>
>>>> At our team, we are two coders, non of us are proficient in Web 
>>>> Developing, and we have little experience with RoR, and I thought (I'm 
>>>> sure) maybe investing time learning Clojure will provide us with better 
>>>> tools.
>>>>
>>>> PROBLEM/QUESTION
>>>>
>>>> While searching for alternative solutions, I stumbled upon the 
>>>> Flightcaster case, we're they are using RoR to implement the site's 
>>>> frontend and Clojure for the system backend. I thought this was a very 
>>>> elegant solution, using each tool for what it's good at. Plus this way we 
>>>> can reuse what they've already implemented.
>>>>
>>>> I found a way to do this is by using Torquebox and Immutant, and using 
>>>> the messaging systems to communicate between Jruby and Clojure. Still I 
>>>> have no idea of how this works, and the performance and security 
>>>> implications it brings to the table. I found little information on the 
>>>> subject.
>>>>
>>>> I would appreciate if anyone could provide guidance, examples or 
>>>> documentation on the subject.
>>>>
>>>> Any reference to open source projects which use this hybrid language 
>>>> solutions on the JVM would be great to have.
>>>>
>>>> Is this the best way to solve the RoR interactions? Is there any other 
>>>> way?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance and best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rodrigo
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