You can take the CSP out of core.async, but then it really isn't the same
thing. Your version with promises still allows for async, but in the
process removes most of the benefits of CSP.

Timothy Baldridge


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Ben Mabey <b...@benmabey.com> wrote:

>  I've also ran into situations as well where the context switching of the
> thread pool is prohibitive. I swapped out the thread pool with a single
> threaded executor and saw a big speed improvement.  The downside is that
> you can not specify what thread pool a go block should be ran on.  This
> means I had to hack the global thread pool like so:
>
> ;; hack for using a single thread
> (in-ns 'clojure.core.async.impl.exec.threadpool)
>
> (defonce thread-factory (conc/counted-thread-factory "clj-sim-dispatch-%d"
> false))
>
> (defn sim-executor []
>   (Executors/newFixedThreadPool 1 thread-factory))
>
> (defonce single-tp (sim-executor))
> (def the-executor single-tp)
>
> (in-ns 'my-ns)
>
> I'd be curious to see if this hack gives you similar performance benefits
> as your promise fork.  It would be nice if you could pass in an executor to
> a go-block  to override the default global one to accommodate these
> different use cases.  This would be similar to how you can now control the
> executors for futures.
>
> -Ben
>
>
> On 3/11/14, 11:39 AM, Эльдар Габдуллин wrote:
>
> Each go block is executed via thread pool. On a channel side, producers
> and consumers are also decoupled.
> Such decoupling costs around 10-20 us per async operation. For the cases
> when your async
> values are immediately available (e.g. from cache), or when you designed
> an async
> API just because your operations may block for a long but not necessary
> do, those are huge numbers.
>
>  For example, I recently worked on a dependency injection 
> container<https://github.com/dar-clojure/core> which
> supports async computations.
> Asynchrony in one place means that all you API will be async everywhere.
> Natural way to go with implementation is to just
> wrap everything in a go block. However, after doing that I found that
> container became 50 times slower. 5 us overhead for a
> typical task turned into 250 us.
>
>  As a solution I forked <https://github.com/dar-clojure/async> core.async
> and replaced channels with lightweight promises and removed thread pool
> dispatch from
> everywhere. Now async container implementation is only 5 times slower than
> its sync version, which is probably acceptable.
>
>  I'd like to hear what others think about this issue, especially members
> of the core team.
>
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