On Tuesday, April 29, 2014 10:47:58 PM UTC-5, da...@axiom-developer.org 
wrote:
>
> Phil, 
>
> > I like the general idea of the Valentin's proposal, but I don't 
> > understand every bit of it.  It sounds complicated.  Personally, I'd 
> > rather see something that's relatively simple, and good enough, than 
> > something that's perfect but unwieldy.  If it's too difficult, people 
> > won't use it, or they'll waste time, or feel that the Clojure 
> > community expects them to spend too much time on something that 
> > detracts from what's important. 
>
> Can I ask, quite seriously and not intending any sarcasm, what you mean 
> by "detracts from what's important"? 
>
> For me, "what's important" is to communicate ideas, designs, and details 
> from one developer to another so that others can maintain, modify, and 
> extend what exists. I've already held forth on what I think that implies 
> so I won't bore you with it. 
>
> What I don't understand is your criteria for "what's important" and 
> how that translates to action. 
>
> If we can agree on "what's important" then the technical details would 
> have common criteria for "simple and good enough vs something that's 
> perfect but unwieldy". 
>
> Tim Daly 
>

We agree. 

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