I'd just like to say that I'm very impressed that this conversation is 
happening. It shows a great level of awareness within the community and 
makes me really optimistic about clojure as a inclusive language for the 
future.

On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 10:59:08 PM UTC-4, Mars0i wrote:
>
> After reading Sean's thoughtful off-list remarks, I think it's worth 
> commenting on my previous remarks.  I don't think it matters whether I 
> understand people's reasons.  People may have their own personal reasons 
> for not wanting to answer demographic questions, and I accept that, don't 
> object to it, and am open to supporting it.
>
> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 7:22:56 PM UTC-5, Mars0i wrote:
>>
>> I don't really get it.  I don't see a legitimate reason why anyone would 
>> refuse to participate in the survey because it included demographic 
>> questions.  The survey is anonymous.  The combination of questions is not 
>> such that it would be at all plausible that anyone could be identified by 
>> their responses.  At worst, answering a few additional questions--or simply 
>> skipping those questions--would be a very minor annoyance.  Is it that some 
>> people object to the idea that there are disparities due to systemic 
>> factors in our society?  If someone wants to disagree about that, OK, but I 
>> still don't see how boycotting a survey because it offers respondents the 
>> opportunity to provide demographic information is reasonable.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 2:06:29 PM UTC-5, Sean Corfield wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Ashton Kemerling <ashtonk...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote: 
>>> > "I would rather not say" is a common and valid response in these 
>>> scenarios. 
>>>
>>> Yes, although that doesn't address that there are people who will not 
>>> complete a survey that even asks such questions (on a philosophical 
>>> objection to collecting such demographic information). As I said, it's a 
>>> sensitive issue. 
>>>
>>> As Bridget noted, they'll consider the approach for 2015. 
>>>
>>> Sean Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN 
>>> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ 
>>>
>>> "Perfection is the enemy of the good." 
>>> -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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