I don't want to speak for others, I notified everyone involved on Twitter that 
I made this thread so they can voice their own complaints.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:02 AM, László Török <ltoro...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "I tweeted recently that I thought that Clojure is super testable, and I
> was genuinely surprised about the number of people who disagreed with me."
> My 2c.
> Without explicitly citing those complaints, it will be difficult to conduct
> a meaningful debate.
> 2014-10-31 14:52 GMT+00:00 Ashton Kemerling <ashtonkemerl...@gmail.com>:
>>  I tweeted recently that I thought that Clojure is super testable, and I
>> was genuinely surprised about the number of people who disagreed with me.
>>
>> There's been a lively discussion about what the best testing frameworks in
>> clojure currently are, and what the built in solutions (clojure.test and
>> test.check) are lacking. While a lot of people recommend midje or
>> expectations, I generally prefer the built in options (no offense to
>> contributors of either of those libraries) and usually recommend people
>> stick with clojure.test for its lack of magic.
>>
>> It's my opinion that these two libraries are largely complete aside from
>> some human interface improvements (quality of output for example), but
>> clearly not everyone agrees with me.
>>
>> So let's talk about what we could add to make the clojure testing
>> experience superior compared to other languages.
>>
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