So, yes I agree - it is best to take something like this and see how it works in concrete implementations before determining whether it is good enough to subscribe to. In this case, there are actually two concrete implementations - freactive and fx-clj (which I'll formally announce once I get to update the docs). In my case, I actually thought of this abstraction first - because I was trying to think of API would work equally well for JavaFX as well as the DOM and other things. I wasn't even going to write the DOM version (freactive) but then after using the existing reactive DOM libs I found some things missing - especially in terms of easy, built-in animation support which I needed for my projects.
So, let's see how this model works for people as they use it. Please keep in mind that this is a very young library so this implementation is bound to have its kinks. Thanks for all those who are patient enough to play with it now and help improve it. On Monday, November 24, 2014 4:35:11 AM UTC-5, Ruslan Prokopchuk wrote: > > If you want something artistic though exotic enough to be not used on > github before, you can try 'nerikomi' (see google or > http://nerikomi.blogspot.com/ for samples) — beautiful Japanese art of > pottery where every layer of clay customized with different chemical > reactions to produce beautiful patterns. > > Saying about ui-spec, I really like it, but I think it should be developed > in communication with one of concrete realizations — e.g. freactive for > DOM. This way we will see real drawbacks and advantages of this model being > used for real applications, and will have chance to advance it and refactor > accordingly. But, may be it is only my approach to go up of the abstraction > ladder — somebody prefer to think about ideal abstraction in advance and > then implement it carefully. > > At the moment I can't say if my problems with using freactive are problems > of implementation or spec. Need more time to play with. > > понедельник, 24 ноября 2014 г., 6:45:12 UTC+3 пользователь Aaron написал: >> >> Glad to see all the enthusiasm about names :) If you think of others, you >> can let me know. Probably leaning towards something artistic sounding like >> "fresco" so far... >> >> But anyway, more importantly did anyone check out the docs I just posted? >> In particular the UI spec one: >> https://github.com/aaronc/freactive.core/blob/master/UI-SPEC.md. What do >> people think about the idea of trying to generalize conventions for writing >> reactive UI's? Decomplecting state management from the underlying UI >> renderer, common semantics, etc... >> >> On Sunday, November 23, 2014 2:44:49 PM UTC-5, Henrik wrote: >> > Hacker News has sort of noticed: >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8648491 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:32:11 PM UTC+1, Jason Lewis wrote: >> > Furthermore (it occurs to me) cesium is used to drive atomic clocks... >> so if you're using an atom to maintain state... even more relevance. >> Relevance? Wait, it's Cognitect now :) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Jason Lewis >> > >> > >> > vox 410.428.0253 >> > twitter @canweriotnow >> > blog http://decomplecting.org >> > else http://about.me/jason.lewis >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Jason Lewis <ja...@decomplecting.org> >> wrote: >> > >> > Cesium is the most reactive element of all... and the name isn't taken >> on Clojars. >> > >> > >> > Cesium will react explosively even with ice. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Jason Lewis >> > >> > >> > vox 410.428.0253 >> > twitter @canweriotnow >> > blog http://decomplecting.org >> > else http://about.me/jason.lewis >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Gary Trakhman <gary.t...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > The two best ones I can think of right now >> > >> > >> > Halogen: they're known as highly reactive elements. >> > Precipitate: both a noun and a verb, the solid that falls out of a >> solution, or to bring about such a reaction. >> > >> > >> > Other chemical-ish names considered >> > Enantiopure - Containing compounds of only a single chirality >> > Fullerene - Bucky-Balls, they're just cool >> > Recycle - 'Save the trees', and also 'recycle streams' from chemical >> engineering. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Aaron Craelius <aaronc...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Fresco isn't bad. I think it's better than "freactive" at least. Seems >> to be relatively popular for a name, but no big projects: >> https://github.com/search?o=desc&p=1&q=fresco&s=stars&type=Repositories&utf8=✓ >> >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Olli Piepponen <kot...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > If you are open to name suggestions, how about Fresco? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "ClojureScript" group. >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/clojurescript/99myJ9vLeKQ/unsubscribe. >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> clojurescrip...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> > To post to this group, send email to clojur...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "ClojureScript" group. >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to clojurescrip...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> > To post to this group, send email to clojur...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> > >> > --- >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "ClojureScript" group. >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to clojurescrip...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> > To post to this group, send email to clojur...@googlegroups.com. >> > >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojurescript. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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