I like the idea of projars, both as private hosting and as a marketplace
for commercial libs... again, my Datomic headaches influence my opinion,
but if commercial/internal libs could just be lein deps, it'd remove an
annoyance from my workflow.
As for clojars, I get wanting to keep it simple. FWIW, if there was a
Patreon button on clojars, I'd donate. (maybe there is one and I'm thick.
Also possible).
Cheers,
Jason
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 10:15 PM Alan Dipert <a...@dipert.org> wrote:
> The past few teams I've been on have used variously S3, Nexus, and
> Artifactory, and I wasn't especially happy with any of them. I think there
> is a sweet spot of usability (for small/medium teams) and technical
> capability that hasn't really been achieved by anything available. Of
> what's available today, Artifactory's SaaS ("Cloud" version) looks most
> palatable but I haven't used it enough to recommend it.
>
> To hit the sweet spot for myself, and for others with similar tastes, I've
> been working with Micha Niskin on a commercial product called Projars that
> maybe be of interest: http://projars.com/.
>
> Incidentally, the previous owner of the projars.com domain had a
> different and interesting idea for it, as a kind of marketplace for
> commercial libraries:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20140309074426/http://projars.com/ Maybe
> this could still be a thing?
>
> I am very grateful to Alex Osborne's stewardship of Clojars and the
> efforts of all its contributors over the years. It is an important
> community asset. If finances ever became a problem, I would be happy to
> contribute, as I'm sure many others in the community would also.
>
> Alan
>
> On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-4, Toby Crawley wrote:
>
>> Clojars is pretty much a one man show right now, but it currently
>> requires little time to maintain, and works fairly well. If it
>> supported private repos, the maintenance and support time would go up
>> considerably, and it would require some sort of business entity around
>> it. Doing that has been considered in the past, but isn't something
>> I'm comfortable doing right now, due to other obligations.
>>
>> The hosting costs are relatively small, and still being sponsored by
>> Alex Osborne (clojars' original author). I've considered selling
>> corporate sponsorships or having a fundraising campaign to establish a
>> fund that could take that burden off of Alex, and to have on hand to
>> cover contracting someone to help with recovering from potential
>> compromises (like the linode breach[1]), patching vulnerabilities
>> (heartbleed, etc), or rebuilding the server in case of failure, if
>> such help is needed. I have no idea if I'll need some sort of legal
>> entity to hold that money, but if one is needed, that might be
>> something the recently proposed Clojure community organization[2]
>> could handle.
>>
>> I know that it's often easier to give money over time, but if folks
>> are interested in helping clojars now, we have quite a few open
>> issues[3] that are ready for discussion/patches.
>>
>> - Toby
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clojars-maintainers/uAVJVwRAnSU
>> [2]: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojure/i2YqnCkeemM/0nOJaK8U91EJ
>> [3]:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojars-maintainers/AKLPSVY5Qcw/w63eLy7pU58J
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Christopher Small
>>
> <metas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > This is being done now with npm: https://www.npmjs.com/. Cost is
>> $7/mo,
>> > which seems reasonable.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, June 30, 2015 at 12:00:55 PM UTC-7, Jason Lewis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think my company would be willing to pay a reasonable fee for
>> private
>> >> Clojars repos, on something like the Github model? Not sure what the
>> lein
>> >> overhead would be, I know grabbing Datomic Pro from non-Clojars with
>> creds
>> >> is a motherf@#@#ing pain in the ass at times (but only in comparison
>> to the
>> >> conveninece of Clojars.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe a private-Clojars solution could be a good way to support the
>> >> project and encourage a standardized lein/project.clj method of
>> grabbing
>> >> non-free artifacts?
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM Dave Dixon <dave.d...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> +1. Neither S3 or Archiva have worked out well for us long term.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Monday, June 29, 2015 at 6:50:44 PM UTC-7, Daniel Compton wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi folks
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I wondered if one possible solution for ensuring Clojars long-term
>> >>>> viability and maintenance would be to use it to host private
>> repositories
>> >>>> for paying users as well? For many people, the thought of setting up
>> and
>> >>>> maintaining Nexus or Archiva isn't an appealing one. I'm aware of
>> the S3
>> >>>> wagon, and perhaps that's what people use if they don't want Nexus.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'd be interested to hear what other people are doing, and whether
>> >>>> Clojars would be a good middle ground between simplicity and
>> functionality.
>> >>>> Many Clojure users already have Clojars accounts and will have setup
>> Lein to
>> >>>> deploy here already. Additionally, many people would support Clojars
>> for the
>> >>>> goodwill factor.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On the other hand I'm aware this would require more development
>> effort,
>> >>>> there may not be much demand for this, and the infrastructure costs
>> may not
>> >>>> be large enough that it's worth going down this route.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just a thought,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Daniel.
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