I went ahead and logged this here so we don't lose it:

http://dev.clojure.org/jira/browse/CLJ-2076



On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-6, Alex Miller wrote:
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> On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 11:53:10 AM UTC-6, Tom Locke wrote:
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>> I haven't watched the keynote so I look forward to that. I sure Rich's 
>> arguments will convince me, as always!
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>> In my case I am spec'ing rather complex and deeply nested structures. The 
>> conformed values are changed all the way down. I have a bunch of functions 
>> to interrogate these structures in useful ways, none of which I can use in 
>> my specs. What would be recommended practice here?
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> If you are mostly seeing this with s/or, then using something 
> s/nonconforming around ors could help you.
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>> In the slack channel someone mentioned a possible forthcoming version of 
>> s/and that doesn't flow conformed values through. That sounds like it might 
>> do the trick, and has the advantage of putting the decision with the spec 
>> consumer.
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> Also something we're considering. 
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