Hi Greenie 
Check your potassium and ect.   You might have an imbalance.   That happened to 
me when gleevec quit working.   I was so sick.   Do you have diarrhea?    I had 
both.   I finally started taking psyllium seed--crushed--you can get them at 
health food store. Just go by the directions.  
It cured the diarrhea but I had to finally change tkis. 


Blessings Jeanie 18's 🐠🐠

> On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:39 AM, "'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope" 
> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard and hang in there.   I wake up with nausea every morning which I 
> think is the hydrea.  Do you eat a big meal with gleevec?  I know I had to 
> and no spicy foods.  Your success on gleevec has been great.  It quit on me 
> after 5 years.  You could just have a bug.  
> Good luck and blessings. 
> Jeanie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi to my friends in our group,  well I've been on Gleevec for 15 years and 
>> 14 days all of a sudden for the last 4 days I'm having nausea problems.  I'm 
>> taking some promethazine that helps some what but it's not a fun thing.  I 
>> have no idea what started it either.  I had this problem before when we 
>> lived in Springfield, MO. I got over heated and got hit with nausea every 
>> day for a little more then 2 years then I awoke one morning and it was like 
>> someone turned off the switch and it was gone.  This time of the year it's 
>> not hot here so I know that's not what caused this problem.
>>  
>> I'm going to take a Gleevec break for a week or two to clean out my system 
>> and hope that I get back to normal.  I did this before about 6 years ago 
>> when I had a sinus infection and the doctor back in Indiana put me  on and 
>> anabolic that interfered with my Gleevec so we stopped Gleevec for 26 days.  
>> After getting blood work some cancer cells did show back up in my blood work 
>> but after stating Gleevec again the next test showed that I was clean again. 
>>  
>> My doctor at that time was doctor Tallman and he gave me a call and said 
>> "well if it worked before it will work again" and that was that.  So I have 
>> my fingers crossed to see what happens.  I can't stand this nausea problem, 
>> my heart goes out to the women that have babies and have to put up with 
>> nausea.  I just hope it's the Gleevec again and not something else.  My 
>> blood counts are O. K. so I'm not worried about that.  This does not help my 
>> anxiety problems
>>  
>> Will keep you all up to date as how things go.
>>  
>> greenie
>>  
>> In a message dated 1/23/2015 11:35:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>> rbhuffm...@gmail.com writes:
>> Seventeen and on my first adventure  this wonderful world we live in.
>> 
>> Richard H. 
>> 
>>> On Friday, January 23, 2015 at 5:38:47 AM UTC-6, Icandoallttc wrote:
>>> That's cute Richard--how old were you?
>>> My IV went in good-no swelling.  
>>> This morning I am sick-- sore throat and mucus.  
>>> Glad everything went good Sherri but couldn't they give you something for 
>>> pain??
>>> Blessings Jeanie 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Richard H <rbhuf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> May I add my sea story of needles,  I don't like needles but do not have a 
>>> phobia.  When I arrived  at boot camp the first thing was get our shots. We 
>>> walked through a line getting shots in both arms as mentioned.  They were 
>>> using hugh syringes and had large pillows with the needles that was changed 
>>> while we were stepping in front of them. Someone was calling a slow cadence 
>>> of step, step. As each recruit stepped He was given a shot in each arm.  
>>> All of a sudden the corpsman I was getting ready to step in front of yelled 
>>> "BRING BACK MY NEEDLE."  The recruit in fount of me had it hanging in his 
>>> arm.  When I received the 4 pricks for allergy testing I then had to sit in 
>>> the dentist chair I promptly passed out. 
>>> 
>>> Richard H.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:50:17 AM UTC-6, greenie wrote:
>>> Jeanie, Needles lord knows I hate them.  The first time I had a blood test 
>>> it was to get married.  My  Doctor lived 3 blocks away form me and I worked 
>>> for him when I was in High School.  They did the blood work and he walked 
>>> in after and took one look at me and he put is hand behind my head and 
>>> pushed it down and told me to pushed as hard as I could to keep me from 
>>> passing out.
>>>  
>>> Then when I went into the Navy I was on active          duty for a year and 
>>> a haft they found out that I didn't get any of my shots.  Well you know 
>>> what happened then, I received them all at once, both arms.  So years go by 
>>> and I end up with CML and we all know about needles.  Yes, some are good 
>>> and some are bad.  I had to get blood work this Monday and I think the lady 
>>> took the needle outside and scraped it on the pavement plus I think it was 
>>> square and bent. I think it when through my arm and out the other side.
>>>  
>>> And the first BMB all they gave me it was so much fun that I asked them to 
>>> do another one. Ha, Ha.  After about 10 or 11 of them I asked to be put 
>>> into lala land which they did but I had to have someone drive me home.  My 
>>> wife has to give me a shot of testosterone every two weeks, the needle is 
>>> 1/1/2 in long another fun shot.  So for me they do the molecular blood work 
>>> and no more BMB.  Thank you.
>>>  
>>> Take care and hang in their,
>>>  
>>> greenie
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 1/22/2015 6:08:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> cml...@googlegroups.com writes:
>>> Hi Marty. 
>>> How are you?
>>> I am going to have the endoscopy today.  First I will go to the blood area 
>>> and have blood checked. Then to dr for consultation.  Then to have the 
>>> endoscopy.  
>>> Long day. 
>>> Needles are no fun but we get used to them.  Some draws are good some bad.  
>>> Pray for me and all in need. 
>>> Love Jeanie 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>> 
>>> You have been through so much it's about time that you got a break or two. 
>>> Not feeling that IV go in and no black and blue afterward then having a BMA 
>>> with little or no pain. 
>>> 
>>> Well, two out of two ain't too bad is it? <360.gif>
>>> 
>>> When I was a kid I had a phobia, and it was needles. I hated them that on 
>>> the day my school was giving shots I told my mother that I was sick and 
>>> couldn't go to school that day. So, she kept me home and I went to school 
>>> the next day. Guess what? I got the shots that day.
>>> 
>>> OK I'm in the army and in those days you had to walk down an isle to get 
>>> all of your shots. They used a machine that looked like a gun and I thought 
>>> it wouldn't hurt. Guess what? It did!
>>> 
>>> Then when I was 45 years old I got CML and went for a bone marrow 
>>> transplant. So many, many needles that I just got used to them. Then having 
>>> 17 BMB's. It looks like needles and me are just like twins, always 
>>> together. Not to mention that one of the aspiration needles break off and 
>>> lodge in my illiac. So in go more needles and an in-cession follows to 
>>> remove that needle. Then four stitches, of course using another needle.     
>>>  
>>> 
>>> So about 4 years ago my kidneys fail and I go on dialysis. Two very large 
>>> needles are stuck into my arm every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and they 
>>> stay in there for four hours.
>>> 
>>> I wouldn't say that I have gotten used to them but maybe I just don't pay 
>>> that much attention to them anymore.
>>> 
>>>  So much for any phobias., but life goes on. Hopefully I will be getting 
>>> some more needles for a kidney transplant soon. Now doesn't that sound 
>>> warped from someone that had a phobia against needles? It just all depends 
>>> on how one looks at it I guess...
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:27 AM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
>>> <cml...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Marty and thanks so much for that uplift.  I have been dreading it for 
>>> some reason.  
>>> I pray that you get your kidney soon-- I know those fistula operations are 
>>> tedious.  
>>> The procedure I dread most is the IV. 
>>> My last one last week was a miracle.   The nurse put it in and I didn't 
>>> feel a thing.  Later I looked for the black and blue mark left by the IV 
>>> and no sign at all.  I have never had this before.  It's usually black and 
>>> blue and swollen. 
>>> My Bma has hurt very little. Thank The Lord!!!
>>> 
>>> You are our spice of life and thanks for being there for. And thanks to all 
>>> if you for your prayers and uplifts. 
>>> Blessings
>>> 18's jeanie<emoji_u1f42c.png><emoji_u1f42c.png>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>> 
>>> Good luck with your endoscopy. They usually do put you out for that 
>>> procedure. I don't know if they will use a Propofol cocktail but if they do 
>>> you will go to sleep and when you wake up you will still think that the 
>>> procedure was not yet done. Very good sleep with no after effects. I have 
>>> had at least a dozen of them. Every time they operate on the fistula in my 
>>> arm they use it. It looks like I will be going in for another procedure for 
>>> my fistula, there is a narrowing in two sections. This will make 13 
>>> procedures in the last 12  months. I sure hope that a kidney transplant 
>>> will be coming soon.
>>> 
>>> I have to share a story about my anesthesia doctor. She knows me so well 
>>> that we are on a first name basis. So, the last time that I had to be put 
>>> out I asked her if I could "knock myself out" Of course I was only kidding 
>>> but she told me that she would let me do it to myself.
>>> 
>>> So, i'm in the operating room and she is standing over me and she puts the 
>>> oxygen mask on my head and as she is holding the needle that is connected 
>>> to me IV she tells me to put my thumb on the plunger but not to push it 
>>> until she tells me so. 
>>> 
>>> Ok I got my thumb on the plunger and she tells me to push it very slowly 
>>> when she counts to three. So, I'm waiting and her thumb is on top of mine 
>>> and she counts "one" then she starts to count "two" and the next thing I 
>>> know is that I am waking up in the recovery room. 
>>> 
>>> When she came to see me I asked her if I was the one that knocked myself 
>>> out and she just smiled. 
>>> 
>>> By the way this Propofol is white in color and looks like milk.
>>> 
>>> Humor is the spice of life.<360.gif>
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 3:19 PM, 'Icandoallttc' via CMLHope 
>>> <cml...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Marty 
>>> Yes a fl cracker--hope you are great today!!!
>>> I am going to have an endoscopy thur. 
>>> First one--they put you to sleep. 
>>> Blessings
>>> Jeanie
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>> 
>>> You sound like a real southern gal. As for me, I'm just a good old plain 
>>> city boy that also loves to go fishing. When I was a kid my father would 
>>> take me out deep sea fishing and my favorite fish was blue fish. My mother 
>>> used to cook it in milk to get rid of the fishy taste. It was really good 
>>> but I can't seem to find blue fish here in Florida.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I am kind of surprised to hear that your having a difficult time 
>>> with Hydrea. That was the first drug that I                      got along 
>>> with Allopurinal when I first had CML.
>>> 
>>> Both of those drugs never gave me any problems except if I took too much 
>>> and it would take about a week for them to start working. Once they did 
>>> then my blood counts would drop sometimes drastically so the doses had to 
>>> be adjusted, but I never got sick or anything like that from them.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:59 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 
>>> <cml...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> My family all love to fish, and we keep and eat everything legalhehe.
>>> I was reared on good fried to a golden brown perch that live in the Fl 
>>> lakes and rivers.
>>> There is nothing better than good fried mullet with their roe fried to t 
>>> golden brown.
>>> We love it with grits and tomato gravy and cornbread.
>>> I am feeling some better, but taking Hydrea is no fun at all.  Knocks you 
>>> for a loop.
>>> I haven't heard about the pontatinib yet.
>>> My doctor says its a powerful drug and has to be kept monitored every week.
>>> Well all the drugs are powerful as far as I am concerned.
>>> Good luck everyone,
>>> Jeanie<3
>>>  
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 1/15/2015 2:58:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>> Hi again Greenie,
>>> 
>>> Like you said, don't look back but only forward. 
>>> 
>>> By the way, I am an animal lover whether it be dogs, cats, birds or fish.
>>> 
>>> I am glad to hear that you threw back those fish where they belong. 
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>>> <cml...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> Marty, My aunt left me some stock and money and one of the stocks was 
>>> Novartis and my stock guy told me to sell it.  That was before Gleevec was 
>>> in any kind of study.  Because of him I also lost $43,000.00 and I pulled 
>>> my money out and fired him. If I, would have, could of.  Of course I wish I 
>>> would have kept some of my early Corvette's that I had I would be worth a 
>>> more money then Novartis.  But can't look back, just look forward.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for your reply, also I live in South Fort Myers not far from the 
>>> beach.  In fact I went fishing yesterday by the beach and caught 8 fish.  
>>> But I do not keep any, back into the water they go where they belong.
>>>  
>>> greenie
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 1/15/2015 1:09:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>> Hi Greenie,
>>> 
>>> First, where in Florida do you live? I am on the east coast, Boynton Beach. 
>>> If we are not to far                              maybe we can do lunch one 
>>> of these days. If my memory serves me right I think that you may be in Ft 
>>> Meyers??? If so then I guess that lunch is out of the question...
>>> 
>>> About STI571. Do you know how it came about? As everyone already knows Dr. 
>>> Brian Druker who was the one that had first discovered it. He tried finding 
>>> a drug company that would produce it and finally found Novartis which was 
>>> at the time an agricultural drug company. 
>>> 
>>> One of Dr. Drukers patients was Zavie Miller who was trying out STI571 and 
>>> it was working. Novartis didn't want to produce it in quantity because of 
>>> the start up costs. Both Zavie and I got in touch with one of the 
>>> principals of Novartis and told him that we may be able to bring a lot of 
>>> investors into the company. 
>>> 
>>> At the time there was another CML site and we got on and asked if people 
>>> would like to invest in the Novartis stock. At that time their stock price 
>>> was $1,200 a share but there were also what is called American registry 
>>> shares of Novartis that was selling for only $20.00 a share. 
>>> 
>>> Everyone started buying those shares and Novartis then started production 
>>> but only after it was approved by the FDA which normally takes about 10 
>>> years. With pressure being put on the FDA STI571 was approved in about one 
>>> and a half years, and became Gleevec.
>>> 
>>> I bought many shares of Gleevec at $20.00 a share and have nor will I ever 
>>> sell them because of my support for Novartis. As of my December stock 
>>> portfolio Novartis is listed at 92.6600. Novartis stock has continuously 
>>> gone up and up over the years.  
>>> 
>>> I am however disappointed in the price they are getting, most notably there 
>>> are people with CML that can not afford it. Now Novartis does have some 
>>> options for those that are having a difficult time but it still would be 
>>> nice if Novartis would look back at what they were and what they are now, 
>>> and                              maybe consider dropping their price for 
>>> Gleevec. Wishful thinking? Maybe but maybe not, hopefully...
>>> 
>>> But Greenie, as you mentioned it is all about greed and money.
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>>> <cml...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> Thank you Marty,  Everything you wrote is so true about Gleevec and CML.  
>>> It's unfortunate that greed and money has to be in the equations in the 
>>> final outcome.  After Interferon that almost killed me all that was left 
>>> was Hydrea.  So when Doctor Tallman called me and wanted be in his study 
>>> for STI571 I had no idea what was going on.  Within 3 months I was 85% 
>>> clean and after 6 months I was clean.  Yes their have been over the years 
>>> some up's and down's put                                that's part of 
>>> life.  Like my late Aunt used to always say when she was in her 80's I just 
>>> take one day at a time. 
>>>  
>>> I wound like to see a cure in my life time because the old hour glass is 
>>> starting to run low on sand.. And the way these people drive here in 
>>> Florida the end could come anytime I leave the friendly confines and that's 
>>> not any guarantee because most of the people speed and run the stop signs 
>>> in this 55 and older community.
>>>  
>>> Keep in touch,
>>>  
>>> Greenie
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 1/15/2015 8:11:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>> 
>>> Hi Greenie,
>>> 
>>> So you have been on Gleevec for 15 years. That is something good to know 
>>> because what would you have done without Gleevec? This drug is responsible 
>>> for saving countless lives. Thank GOD it is here or you wouldn't be here 
>>> right now. 
>>> 
>>> If it weren't for dialysis neither would I be here right now. This is the 
>>> advancement of what medicine has on our lives today. I always               
>>>                    say that there will be a cure for CML and you can mark 
>>> my words it WILL come soon. Just like all of the things that were not 
>>> around years ago now they are coming.
>>> 
>>> GOD bless you Greenie!
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Shannon L <shannon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Greenie 15 yrs on glivec,  i will be 14yrs this yr (started roughly 3 
>>> yrs after dx)
>>> Shannon
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, January 10, 2015 at 12:11:08 AM UTC+11, greenie wrote:
>>> Jeanie, as of Jan. 10th I will have been on Gleevec for 15 years. Starting 
>>> to retain fluid around my ankles a little but that could be and age thing. 
>>> 75 years old.
>>>  
>>> greenie
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 1/9/2015 7:53:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> cml...@googlegroups.com writes:
>>> Hi Richard and thanks for the update.  My onc doesn't like for me to be 
>>> informed either; he just ignores what I say and goes on to tell me what he 
>>> thinks.
>>> My uric acid was high along with my WBC and Platelets.  He seemed to be 
>>> more concerned with the high uric acid--even called me on my cell 
>>> personally twice; never had that happen before.
>>> He took me off Sprycel adn put me on Hydrea and allopurinol; it's funny the 
>>> same thing they did 11 years ago when I was first dx.
>>> He took another blood sample to see if I have a mutation against the 
>>> Sprycel.  It seems strange that I had a mutation with Gleevec after 5 
>>> years.  Is five years a cut off point? Has anyone else have this happen?  
>>> Anyone else been on Hydrea after tki?
>>> Going next week to Moffitt to see if I have the mutation. Will let everyone 
>>> know.
>>> The leukemia has reared it's ugly head once again!!
>>> Pray for me and everyone in need.
>>> Blessings
>>> Jeanie
>>> (18)
>>>  
>>>  
>>> In a message dated 1/8/2015 11:59:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> rbhuf...@gmail.com                                  writes:
>>> WOW!  Just read todays posts.  I am praying for the group.  I will add my 
>>> problem to the list.  Dec. 30 I contacted ONC about gaining 9.5 pounds 
>>> water weight in 20 days after restarting Gleevec.  His nurse called that he 
>>> was out of the country on vacation with his family.  She checked with the 
>>> DR. covering for him and he asked me to stop Gleevec as he thought I was 
>>> gaining weight  too fast also.  My ONC did return to the office on Monday 
>>> but finally had a conference with his Associate and he agreed with that 
>>> decision.  They both thought that I should be on a different treatment.  My 
>>> ONC was to draft an e-mail to the VA ONC (the one controlling my 
>>> prescriptions) about my reaction to Gleevec and to recommend the treatment 
>>> he thinks I should be on.  So I am still in a wait and see stage.  My ONC 
>>> tells me I am too informed about my condition and that challenges most 
>>> blood cancer specialists  that rarely see CML. 
>>> So let the fun and games continue.  I am still feeling great, but the 
>>> "Gleevec Brain" was also starting to show itself, but nine days off has 
>>> cleared it. I'm as sharp as a busted tack, but that is "normal" for me.
>>> 
>>> As always, "life" and may your tomorrow be beautiful and better than today.
>>> 
>>> ...
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