Great drug! I have been taking it for many, many years. What dose is he on?

18's,

Marty

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Joyce Mesnarich <joy...@htc.net> wrote:

> Jeanie,
> My husband has had hypothyroidism for years…..before he got CML.  It never
> caused him any problems.  It was diagnosed at a regular office visit with a
> blood test.  He takes levothyroxin and has regular blood tests.
>
>             Joyce in Southern Illinois
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:57 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone have a thyroid problem?
>
> My Motto:
> Faith and Pills
> With Love
> Jeanie
> 🐠free
> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
> Started Gleevec 2/2004
> Started Tasigna 9/2009
> Started Sprycel 11/2009
> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
> Dr Balducci retired
>
> 0 CBL. ABL
>
> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Okay Jeanie,
>
> Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.
>
> Hi
> That’s cute
> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
> seen that before.
>
> OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE
> WAY THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO IT WAS FIRST CAME MY MOM AND SHE WOULD HUG
> AND THEN KISS ME. THEN CAME MY DAD. WHAT HE WOULD DO WAS FIRST HUG ME THEN
> KISS ME AND THEN HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT WAS CALLED A KNIPPLE. DO YOU KNOW
> WHAT A KINPPLE IS? WELL IT HURT LIKE HE NEVER WANTED ME TO FORGET HIM.
>
> HE WOULD GRASP MY CHECK BETWEEN HIS THUMB AND INDEX FINGERS AND SORT OF
> TWIST AND THEN LET GO. I COULDN'T WAIT TILL IT WAS OVER BUT AS I LEARNED
> LATER ON IN LIFE HE JUST WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT HE AND MOM WOULD NEVER
> FORGET THEM
>
> His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we were.
> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>
> BY THE WAY THERE IS A HEBREW WORD THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD BEFORE,
> SHALOM. IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE APPROACHING SOMEONE, HELLO, WHEN YOU ARE ON
> THEIR SIDE IT MEANS PEACE AND WHEN YOU PASS THEM IT MEANS GOODBYE
>
> I THINK THAT HE JUST NEEDED A KNIPPLE.
>
> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
> How are you today?
>
> HEY JEANIE, KINPPLES FOR EVERY ONE. 😀
>
> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>
> BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE COOKS AND MY FATHER WAS ALSO A BAKER. WE DIDN'T
> HAVE A LOT OF MONEY BUT WE SURE HAD A LOT OF BREAD. WE LEARNED TO MAKE DO.
> A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THIS BUT FOR ANOTHER TIME...
>
> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
> She fought hard.
> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she didn’t
> know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>
> THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER MOMMY LOTTIE.
>
> And she knew what 18's meant.
>
> So 18's,
>
> Marty, and a Knipple to you.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> That’s cute
>> When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I
>> hugged and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never
>> seen that before.  His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just
>> the way we were.
>> Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.
>> Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill.
>> How are you today?
>> I’m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch.
>> I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
>> I loved Millie’s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.
>> She fought hard.
>> I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she
>> didn’t know what she would do if she couldn’t do her sewing and etc.
>> though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More later——
>>
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> Jeanie
>> 🐠free
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>> Dr Balducci retired
>>
>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jeanie, And I love you to, but when you say " Love you so very much" Do
>> you mean like hugging me so much that your going to crush me until my ribs
>> crumble?
>>
>> Ah yet another opportunity to let me say again...
>>
>> 18's,
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So true Marty
>>> You aren’t even on tki’s and look what you’ve been through.
>>> Thank you for this email.
>>> Love you so very much
>>> Jeanie
>>>
>>> My Motto:
>>> Faith and Pills
>>> With Love
>>> Jeanie
>>> 🐠free
>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>>> Dr Balducci retired
>>>
>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh Jeanie,
>>>
>>> first let me take you back to something I wrote to Richard
>>>
>>> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI
>>> that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at
>>> all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is
>>> his or her job. 👉And if they feel that there is someone that can help as
>>> well then get a second opinion.👈 Don't forget they won't be hurt or
>>> offended because they are all getting together to help you.
>>>
>>>
>>> And we will now continue on. Please read this. I took the time to write
>>> it for a reason and I see that you took my 👉advice👈. A lot more... But I
>>> want to hug your grand-daughter. My father once taught me a lesson and I
>>> think that you may want to pass this onto her, and yourself as well.
>>>
>>> When a person/s learns something new everyday then they become smarter.
>>> When a person/s refuses to learn something every day then they revert back
>>> to yesterday.
>>>
>>> Hum, let me think..... Oh yea I think that your grand-daughter already
>>> knows this?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Take it Day by day and as my granddaughter says". She said “every
>>> little thing’s gonna be alright.”
>>> ❤️
>>> Blood transfusions: A sort of long story but learning something new
>>> every day made me smarter and I am still alive... Jeanie I don't blame you
>>> for not wanting other peoples blood in you but let me ask you a question?
>>> How many units of blood did you require? Did it help you? Well i needn't
>>> know the answer because I already know but nothing that you told me but I
>>> know and here is why.
>>>
>>> I had O+ blood and my sister had B+ blood. So my transplant doctor told
>>> me that since my white blood count was past 186,000 that I need to have the
>>> bone marrow transplant now. Or I may not survive because I was in Blast
>>> crises that I was in.
>>>
>>> But he knew about my blood type wasn't a match for my sister but
>>> everything was perfect but the matching type. He told me that there may be
>>> a way to change my blood type but it could also cause my death. I then told
>>> him that i was dieing anyway so let's try it.
>>>
>>> He started it before my transplant. It would require that I would have
>>> to get many, many blood transfusions as well a a lot of platelets
>>> infusions, and Gama globulin and other human blood products.
>>>
>>> Who already knew about this? R***** Z********. Who showed up with 41
>>> "members" of his "family"
>>> (Yes you know what I mean about this) ready to donate blood. But there
>>> was a problem. At that time there was a new disease called AIDS and all of
>>> the blood banks started testing and this slowed down the collection of
>>> gathering of blood.
>>>
>>> Not to keep you on the edge of your seat. I once helped save a woman's
>>> life because she was dying of stage four breast cancer and I did this
>>> because I knew a doctor who may help her, and it took more then two years.
>>> He never forgot me.
>>>
>>> Some people just have their power but most don't. He was one of those
>>> that did to a certain extent. The way that I look about it was one life foe
>>> another.
>>>
>>> In order to have my blood type converted from O to B I needed 96 units
>>> of blood and I already knew where 41 of them came from. Just to let you
>>> know if a donated unit of blood did not match my blood profile it would be
>>> switched and someone else would get that unit of blood and a "trade" was
>>> made. I am now called a Chimera with B+ blood in me.
>>>
>>> Now I am going forward in my life once more: Twenty years later my
>>> kidneys started started to fail. I was on Dialysis for four years and
>>> through a miracle I was able to get a kidney transplant and while I was
>>> outside of the operating room I noticed a white cooler with a red cross and
>>> it said "Human organs, B right side short urethra.
>>>
>>> I almost jumped out of the gurney because it was B type and then I
>>> remembered that I used to be O type. Now what are the chances that this
>>> could ever happen?
>>>
>>> Now Jeanie and all of the rest of you reading this, don't you think that
>>> there truly Miracles floating around? Just ask your grand daughter....Now
>>> you already know what I know. Have you learned anything new today? I have.
>>>
>>>
>>> 18's
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:01 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <
>>> cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all
>>>> I had this problem when on Tasigna. My hmg dropped to 8. I argued with
>>>> my onc as I didn’t want someone else’s blood in me. I knew if he would take
>>>> me off the tasigna the hbg would come back up. He finally talked me into it
>>>> and I had to stay for hours getting transfusions. As most of you know not
>>>> fun. Tasigna about killed me and I landed back in the hospital until I
>>>> could talk my doctor into giving me Sprycel. I decided to make the move to
>>>> Moffitt and never regretted it.
>>>> Good luck to everyone.  Take it Day by day and as my granddaughter
>>>> says, “every little thing’s gonna be alright.”
>>>> ❤️
>>>>
>>>> My Motto:
>>>> Faith and Pills
>>>> With Love
>>>> Jeanie
>>>> 🐠free
>>>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>>>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>>>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>>>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>>>> Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
>>>> New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
>>>> Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
>>>> Dr Balducci retired
>>>>
>>>> 0 CBL. ABL
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Richard, first thing is when your hemoglobin drops to 10 or below then
>>>> is the time that procrit generic Epoetin Alfa should start. It should
>>>> increase your red/hemoglobin count. However it may take a week or two to
>>>> start showing results. Why don't you mention this to your doctor.
>>>> Also, have your kidney function checked as well.
>>>>
>>>> When my kidneys started to fail I was on Dialsys and found that my
>>>> hemoglobin level started dropping. Kidney function has a lot to do with
>>>> that. The reason why is because there is a hormone called Erythropoietin
>>>> which  is released in response to hypoxia (low levels of oxygen at
>>>> tissue level) in the renal circulation. It stimulates erythropoiesis
>>>> (production of red blood cells) in the bone marrow.   I am writing
>>>> this in bold font to make sure that it can be understood, it is that
>>>> important!
>>>>
>>>> When I was on Diaysis sometimes my HGB would drop to from 7% to 9% and
>>>> I felt like I coulden't even get out of bed. My wife would help me into her
>>>> car and help me into the Dialysis center. I lived a horrible life until I
>>>> had a kidney Transplant.
>>>>
>>>> I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI
>>>> that they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at
>>>> all? That is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is
>>>> his or her job. And if they feel that there is someone that can help as
>>>> well then get a second opinion. Don't forget they won't be hurt or offended
>>>> because they are all getting together to help you.
>>>>
>>>> Richard and everyone else, there was a time a very long time ago that
>>>> my father tought me something. He said that everyone needs to learn
>>>> something new everyday because it will make you smarter. If you refuse to
>>>> learn something new everyday then you will revert back to yesterday. And he
>>>> was right!
>>>>
>>>> 18's
>>>>
>>>> Marty
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Richard H <rbhuffm...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I have been struggling with this for years.  I have had
>>>>> Transfusions, and now check my CBC every month to see if I need to take
>>>>> Procreate to bring my blood level back up.  I am currently on 200 mg
>>>>> Gleevec daily because my CML levels will rise if I don't use it as a
>>>>> maintenance feature.  I am approaching 16 1/2 years since diagnosis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard H.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-5, Vivi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suddenly became terribly anemic and my doctor cut my intake of
>>>>>> 400mg Gleevec daily in half.  It took five months but I am no longer 
>>>>>> anemic
>>>>>> and the CML does not seem to have become visible as yet.  Has anyone else
>>>>>> had a problem like this?
>>>>>>
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