Hi Jeanie,

Yep, have taken levothroxine since I was 30. Still on it without incident.


Much love to all and 18's


Beth



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From: 'Jeanie' via CMLHope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
To: cmlhope <cmlhope@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 10:58 am
Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sudden problem after twenty years.


Anyone have a thyroid problem?


My Motto:
Faith and Pills
With Love
Jeanie
šŸ free
Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna 9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
Dr Balducci retired 


0 CBL. ABL


On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:



Okay Jeanie,


Since there is a lot to talk about I will do it between your lines.


Hi
Thatā€™s cute
When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I hugged 
and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never seen that 
before.


OH I DID, BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME FROM EUROPE AND IT WAS THEIR CUSTOM THE WAY 
THAT THEY WOULD USUALLY DO IT WAS FIRST CAME MY MOM AND SHE WOULD HUG AND THEN 
KISS ME. THEN CAME MY DAD. WHAT HE WOULD DO WAS FIRST HUG ME THEN KISS ME AND 
THEN HE WOULD GIVE ME WHAT WAS CALLED A KNIPPLE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT A KINPPLE IS? 
WELL IT HURT LIKE HE NEVER WANTED ME TO FORGET HIM. 


HE WOULD GRASP MY CHECK BETWEEN HIS THUMB AND INDEX FINGERS AND SORT OF TWIST 
AND THEN LET GO. I COULDN'T WAIT TILL IT WAS OVER BUT AS I LEARNED LATER ON IN 
LIFE HE JUST WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT HE AND MOM WOULD NEVER FORGET THEM


His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we were. 
Kiss goodbye and kiss hello. 


BY THE WAY THERE IS A HEBREW WORD THAT YOU HAVE PROBABLY HEARD BEFORE, SHALOM. 
IT MEANS WHEN YOU ARE APPROACHING SOMEONE, HELLO, WHEN YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE IT 
MEANS PEACE AND WHEN YOU PASS THEM IT MEANS GOODBYE 


I THINK THAT HE JUST NEEDED A KNIPPLE. 
  
Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill. 
How are you today?


HEY JEANIE, KINPPLES FOR EVERY ONE. šŸ˜€


Iā€™m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch. 
I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?


BOTH OF MY PARENTS WERE COOKS AND MY FATHER WAS ALSO A BAKER. WE DIDN'T HAVE A 
LOT OF MONEY BUT WE SURE HAD A LOT OF BREAD. WE LEARNED TO MAKE DO. A WHOLE 
STORY BEHIND THIS BUT FOR ANOTHER TIME...


I loved Millieā€™s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.  
She fought hard. 
I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she didnā€™t know 
what she would do if she couldnā€™t do her sewing and etc. 
though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More laterā€”ā€”


THAT'S WHY I CALLED HER MOMMY LOTTIE.


And she knew what 18's meant.


So 18's,


Marty, and a Knipple to you.









On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
<cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi
Thatā€™s cute
When I first started dating my hubby I was 16. When we went to leave I hugged 
and kissed my mom and dad goodbye. He told me later he had never seen that 
before.  His mom and dad never hugged or kissed him.  It was just the way we 
were. 
Kiss goodbye and kiss hello.  
Same way with my kids. I tell them a hug is better than a pill. 
How are you today?
Iā€™m waiting on my daughter as she will take me to a late lunch. 
I find my appetite not as good as it used to be. How bout you?
I loved Millieā€™s cooking and recipes.  I sure do miss her.  
She fought hard. 
I remember when she started losing the use of her arms she said she didnā€™t know 
what she would do if she couldnā€™t do her sewing and etc. 
though I never met her I felt I knew her all my life. More laterā€”ā€”


My Motto:
Faith and Pills
With Love
Jeanie
šŸ free
Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna 9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
Dr Balducci retired 


0 CBL. ABL


On Jul 13, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:



Jeanie, And I love you to, but when you say "Love you so very much" Do you mean 
like hugging me so much that your going to crush me until my ribs crumble? 


Ah yet another opportunity to let me say again...


18's,


Marty 



On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:16 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
<cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

So true Marty
You arenā€™t even on tkiā€™s and look what youā€™ve been through. 
Thank you for this email. 
Love you so very much 
Jeanie



My Motto:
Faith and Pills
With Love
Jeanie
šŸ free
Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna 9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
Dr Balducci retired 


0 CBL. ABL



On Jul 10, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:



Oh Jeanie,


first let me take you back to something I wrote to Richard


I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI that 
they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at all? That 
is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is his or her job. 
šŸ‘‰And if they feel that there is someone that can help as well then get a second 
opinion.šŸ‘ˆ Don't forget they won't be hurt or offended because they are all 
getting together to help you.





And we will now continue on. Please read this. I took the time to write it for 
a reason and I see that you took my šŸ‘‰advicešŸ‘ˆ. A lot more... But I want to hug 
your grand-daughter. My father once taught me a lesson and I think that you may 
want to pass this onto her, and yourself as well.


When a person/s learns something new everyday then they become smarter. When a 
person/s refuses to learn something every day then they revert back to 
yesterday.


Hum, let me think..... Oh yea I think that your grand-daughter already knows 
this?




"Take it Day by day and as my granddaughter says". She said ā€œevery little 
thingā€™s gonna be alright.ā€
ā¤ļø
Blood transfusions: A sort of long story but learning something new every day 
made me smarter and I am still alive... Jeanie I don't blame you for not 
wanting other peoples blood in you but let me ask you a question? How many 
units of blood did you require? Did it help you? Well i needn't know the answer 
because I already know but nothing that you told me but I know and here is why.



I had O+ blood and my sister had B+ blood. So my transplant doctor told me that 
since my white blood count was past 186,000 that I need to have the bone marrow 
transplant now. Or I may not survive because I was in Blast crises that I was 
in.


But he knew about my blood type wasn't a match for my sister but everything was 
perfect but the matching type. He told me that there may be a way to change my 
blood type but it could also cause my death. I then told him that i was dieing 
anyway so let's try it. 


He started it before my transplant. It would require that I would have to get 
many, many blood transfusions as well a a lot of platelets  infusions, and Gama 
globulin and other human blood products. 


Who already knew about this? R***** Z********. Who showed up with 41 "members" 
of his "family"
(Yes you know what I mean about this) ready to donate blood. But there was a 
problem. At that time there was a new disease called AIDS and all of the blood 
banks started testing and this slowed down the collection of gathering of blood.



Not to keep you on the edge of your seat. I once helped save a woman's life 
because she was dying of stage four breast cancer and I did this because I knew 
a doctor who may help her, and it took more then two years. He never forgot me. 


Some people just have their power but most don't. He was one of those that did 
to a certain extent. The way that I look about it was one life foe another. 


In order to have my blood type converted from O to B I needed 96 units of blood 
and I already knew where 41 of them came from. Just to let you know if a 
donated unit of blood did not match my blood profile it would be switched and 
someone else would get that unit of blood and a "trade" was made. I am now 
called a Chimera with B+ blood in me.


Now I am going forward in my life once more: Twenty years later my kidneys 
started started to fail. I was on Dialysis for four years and through a miracle 
I was able to get a kidney transplant and while I was outside of the operating 
room I noticed a white cooler with a red cross and it said "Human organs, B 
right side short urethra. 


I almost jumped out of the gurney because it was B type and then I remembered 
that I used to be O type. Now what are the chances that this could ever happen?


Now Jeanie and all of the rest of you reading this, don't you think that there 
truly Miracles floating around? Just ask your grand daughter....Now you already 
know what I know. Have you learned anything new today? I have.




18's


Marty


















On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:01 AM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
<cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi all
I had this problem when on Tasigna. My hmg dropped to 8. I argued with my onc 
as I didnā€™t want someone elseā€™s blood in me. I knew if he would take me off the 
tasigna the hbg would come back up. He finally talked me into it and I had to 
stay for hours getting transfusions. As most of you know not fun. Tasigna about 
killed me and I landed back in the hospital until I could talk my doctor into 
giving me Sprycel. I decided to make the move to Moffitt and never regretted 
it. 
Good luck to everyone.  Take it Day by day and as my granddaughter says, ā€œevery 
little thingā€™s gonna be alright.ā€
ā¤ļø 


My Motto:
Faith and Pills
With Love
Jeanie
šŸ free
Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna 9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib 1/ 2015
New Doctor--Dr Martine Extermann
Moffitt Cancer  center sept 2017
Dr Balducci retired 


0 CBL. ABL



On Jul 9, 2018, at 10:21 AM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:



Richard, first thing is when your hemoglobin drops to 10 or below then is the 
time that procrit generic Epoetin Alfa should start. It should increase your 
red/hemoglobin count. However it may take a week or two to start showing 
results. Why don't you mention this to your doctor. 
Also, have your kidney function checked as well. 


When my kidneys started to fail I was on Dialsys and found that my hemoglobin 
level started dropping. Kidney function has a lot to do with that. The reason 
why is because there is a hormone called Erythropoietin  which is released in 
response to hypoxia (low levels of oxygen at tissue level) in the renal 
circulation. It stimulates erythropoiesis (production of red blood cells) in 
the bone marrow.  I am writing this in bold font to make sure that it can be 
understood, it is that important!


When I was on Diaysis sometimes my HGB would drop to from 7% to 9% and I felt 
like I coulden't even get out of bed. My wife would help me into her car and 
help me into the Dialysis center. I lived a horrible life until I had a kidney 
Transplant.


I have heard a lot of people mentioning that they blame some of the TKI that 
they are taking. Perhaps that may be so, but what if it isn't that at all? That 
is why they need to consult with their doctors because that is his or her job. 
And if they feel that there is someone that can help as well then get a second 
opinion. Don't forget they won't be hurt or offended because they are all 
getting together to help you.


Richard and everyone else, there was a time a very long time ago that my father 
tought me something. He said that everyone needs to learn something new 
everyday because it will make you smarter. If you refuse to learn something new 
everyday then you will revert back to yesterday. And he was right!


18's


Marty



On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Richard H <rbhuffm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, I have been struggling with this for years.  I have had Transfusions, and 
now check my CBC every month to see if I need to take Procreate to bring my 
blood level back up.  I am currently on 200 mg Gleevec daily because my CML 
levels will rise if I don't use it as a maintenance feature.  I am approaching 
16 1/2 years since diagnosis.


Richard H. 

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-5, Vivi wrote:
I suddenly became terribly anemic and my doctor cut my intake of 400mg Gleevec 
daily in half.  It took five months but I am no longer anemic and the CML does 
not seem to have become visible as yet.  Has anyone else had a problem like 
this?


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