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From: "Nuno Lopes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Mattias Konradsson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: [cms-list] Re: a word about writers and CM


> I really did not want to get in to this thread. I don't have the time at
> the moment.

Well, here we go :)

> Mattias wrote:
>
> >I'm curious, can you give an example of where it doesn't work? Maybe
> I've >missed something  :)
>
> My PC, by note I'm an advanced technical user. Furthermore my brain
> works visually (I'm very visual) so anything tool that does not take
> advantage of this when writing serious stuff is of no use. I even make
> sketches and diagrams (UML and other) to explain my ideas, to
> contextualize and move on with the refinement of speech.

Well, UML is one thing, there the "presentation" is actual the content
itself. But I still can't see an
application where it wouldn't do just to be able to preview your writings
visually, I mean content needs to conform
to some standard most often, if the headlines look different for each
article how does that look?

> It's easier to sell because it's what customer's want and most probably
> need at the moment. Can I sell something to you that you do not want
> (well if you need or not is another matter)?

Do they want it or don't they know any alternatives? If you sat down and
properly explained the  advantages both in terms of saving time & money as
well as future potential I think most customers would chose it, I see no
reason not to.

> Can you look to yourself and your work area? What is the tool that you
> immediately use to write and expose your thoughts (apart from email?) in
> documents? Are you willing to change the process of creation in order to
> satisfy the constraints of Computers for information processing?
>
> Structured information is an artificial artifact needed by computers in
> most cases. We humans to not need it or want it! We are visual! (That is
> our freedom)

Hey, when you look in the real world at an apple, do you think "an apple" or
do you think "a red round glossy thing with a pin sticking out of it"?
Humans labels
things for simplification, in contrast, what gives the most information:

<headline>XML rocks</headline> or  <div
style="font:family:bold;color:black;font-size:16px">XML Rocks</div>

and what do you propose you do when you need to present it in written
format, or on a mobilephone, or on an really old browser? Manage completely
separate versions of the content? Heck it's not just a matter of
presentation either but also about *behavior* a link might act totally
different under different media's and if you're blind you need information
presented you in a completely different manner

best regards
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Mattias Konradsson

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