Clamcleat?  Same issue releasing it as a cam cleat, but no moving parts.
A ratchet block won't work.
Reversible self tailing winch blows the budget.

If you go to a 6:1 the current mainsheet might be short.

Joel

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Right now I have a regular cleat (horn?) which is also a PITA. Aside from
> a cam cleat, what other options are there that would be appropriate in my
> application?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:
>
>> Never had a problem. I put in a large Harken and it only gets used when
>> the sheet can be handled without the winch.
>>
>> Rich
>> (mobile)
>>
>> On 2012-08-02, at 16:16, Steve Thomas <sthom...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> The only thing I don't like about cam cleats is that they can be
>> difficult to release under load; like when there is a sudden gust of wind
>> and you want to ease the main. Wouldn't it be better to locate the cleat
>> forward of the winch, deck space permitting?
>>
>> Steve Thomas
>> C&C27 MKIII
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:
>> cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]*On Behalf Of *Rich Knowles
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 3:06 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cabin top traveler and mainsheet setup
>>
>> One other little thing:  I installed a cam cleat on the cabin top
>> immediately next to the right side of the main sheet winch. In light to
>> medium air we don't use the winch, just drop the line in the cleat as
>> needed. Saves a lot of line wrapping, winching and releasing. Fast too.
>>
>> Rich
>> (mobile)
>>
>> On 2012-08-02, at 15:52, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks all! That's some great feedback. And you guys are fast!
>> I've considered moving the traveller aft, but ... it's kind of nice not
>> banging body parts on it in the cockpit and the expense it would incur is
>> prohibitive at the moment. I need new sails more than I need a new traveler
>> arrangement. Primary uses right now are cruising but I would like to start
>> racing once I have more experience. Mostly I just want things to be easier
>> on the crew.
>>
>> I checked out the main sheet systems on Harken's site, some very good
>> info there. I think maybe the easiest thing right now will be to go for a
>> 6:1 purchase.
>> I do like the "admiral's cup" setup .. I'm in the habit of sitting on the
>> low side and working the genoa sheets while steering anyway, adding the
>> main to that arrangement means I can leave my girlfriend be. Problem: I
>> don't have secondary winches. I do however, have a pair of Barient 28's
>> (non ST) actually serving as weights on a shelf at home and I would love to
>> trade them for some smaller self-tailers if anyone is interested. My
>> primaries are Barient 27s, self tailing .. and the 28's are too big to be
>> secondaries on my boat. Not sure if this is a reasonable trade, I should
>> probably just sell them but I have no idea what they're worth. If anyone
>> has any input I'de appreciate it.
>>
>> Lastly, I ask her to take the wheel all the time for just these reasons!
>> She seems to be warming up to it but in general she doesn't like it! She
>> gets really nervous and I'm sure my "suppressing criticism" face doesn't
>> help out in that regard. I guess I'll just keep doing what I did earlier
>> this week and go down below for a nap!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
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