Thanks all! That's some great feedback. And you guys are fast! I've considered moving the traveller aft, but ... it's kind of nice not banging body parts on it in the cockpit and the expense it would incur is prohibitive at the moment. I need new sails more than I need a new traveler arrangement. Primary uses right now are cruising but I would like to start racing once I have more experience. Mostly I just want things to be easier on the crew.
I checked out the main sheet systems on Harken's site, some very good info there. I think maybe the easiest thing right now will be to go for a 6:1 purchase. I do like the "admiral's cup" setup .. I'm in the habit of sitting on the low side and working the genoa sheets while steering anyway, adding the main to that arrangement means I can leave my girlfriend be. Problem: I don't have secondary winches. I do however, have a pair of Barient 28's (non ST) actually serving as weights on a shelf at home and I would love to trade them for some smaller self-tailers if anyone is interested. My primaries are Barient 27s, self tailing .. and the 28's are too big to be secondaries on my boat. Not sure if this is a reasonable trade, I should probably just sell them but I have no idea what they're worth. If anyone has any input I'de appreciate it. Lastly, I ask her to take the wheel all the time for just these reasons! She seems to be warming up to it but in general she doesn't like it! She gets really nervous and I'm sure my "suppressing criticism" face doesn't help out in that regard. I guess I'll just keep doing what I did earlier this week and go down below for a nap! Steve On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>wrote: > **** > > Calypso’s traveler is on top of the cabin, just forward of the companion > way (Named companion way because one of your f’n companions is always in > the way.)**** > > ** ** > > Several others mentioned changing the blocks (increasing purchase). I > visit to Harken or Garhaurer’s (sp?) web site will also give some ideas > about reducing friction under load.**** > > ** ** > > Calypso’s main sheet has a double purchase between the boom and traveler > then runs forward to the gooseneck. At the gooseneck I have two Harken > carbo blocks (size for your boat’s working sheet load) that send the main > sheet out and down to the forward end of the jib sheet track (on the side > deck). I have a low friction, stand up sheet block on each track that > sends the main sheet aft to the jib/genoa sheet turning (cheek) block. The > main sheet then terminates at Calypso’s cockpit secondary winches on each > side.**** > > ** ** > > Harken has a great web site. They have a “Tech Corner” with diagrams of > this main sheet set-up. Look under "Admiral’s Cup 4:1 main sheet system”. > They also have calculators to determine the Max Safe Working Load for each > block.**** > > ** ** > > Martin**** > > Calypso**** > > 1971 C&C 43**** > > ****Seattle******** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto: > cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *djhaug...@juno.com > *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 10:14 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cabin top traveler and mainsheet setup > **** > > ** ** > > Steve,**** > > I am totally interested. Is your traveler on top of the cabin? My Viking > 33 has a coach-top traveler and I have yet to set it up as i'm not launched > yet...I know!**** > > **** > > Next week! (I've never said that before!)**** > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Cabin top traveler and mainsheet setup > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:50:47 +0000**** > > Steve,**** > > **** > > Are you expecting to mainly race or cruise? What wind range do you expect > to spend most of your time in?**** > > **** > > On Calypso, with mainly cruising with the family in mind I have copied the > grand prix racer style main sheet where it leads down both sides to the > cockpit secondary winches. I am able to leave the wife in cruise mode > (book and cold drink in hand) and adjust the main sheet to my hearts > content from the helm.**** > > **** > > Let me know if you are interested in more details.**** > > **** > > Martin**** > > Calypso**** > > 1971 C&C 43**** > > ****Seattle******** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto: > cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan Plavsa > *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2012 8:34 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Stus-List Cabin top traveler and mainsheet setup**** > > **** > > Hi All,**** > > **** > > Newish owner of a C&C 32 and I've been wondering about my mainsheet > arrangement lately. Seems I don't have enough purchase, the winch is always > required and this is the only boat I've ever been on that the winch is > required to handle the main, maybe this is a normal thing, I don't know > because I'm not that experienced and this is also the only boat I've ever > been on with a cabin top traveler.**** > > You can see my arrangement here:**** > > > http://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/82/59/3648259_0_20110606112912_4_0.jpg?f=/1/82/59/3648259_0_20110606112912_4_0.jpg&w=600&h=450&t=1317658943000 > **** > > **** > > That is not my boat, just another C&C 32 I found on yachtworld but the > setup is the same except that i have the added complexity of a dodger. *** > * > > What are my options to make sheeting the main easier on my crew? Right now > it's a PITA so the crew is reluctant to make minor adjustments in sail trim > which annoys me but i kind of understand .. especially when it's blowing > 15+, the winch is a one speed non tailer and the crew is generally my 120lb > girlfriend :)**** > > **** > > scenario:**** > > "ease the main"**** > > "don't make me ease the main if you're just going to get me to harden it > again"**** > > "baby, just ease it until it luffs and then bring it in a touch"**** > > **** > > Five minutes later I have nearly the correct sail trim.**** > > **** > > **** > > Is the winch always going to be necessary or can I add some tackle and > route the line somehow so that it's easier and more accessible? I come from > a Mirage 24 that had a bridgedeck mounted traveller and the main sheet on > that was a piece of cake, one hand on the tiller, the other on the sheet. > I'm not expecting that kind of setup due to the location of the traveler > but surely there is a better way.**** > > **** > > Thanks,**** > > Steve**** > > **** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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