The only thing I don't like about cam cleats is that they can be difficult to 
release under load; like when there is a sudden gust of wind and you want to 
ease the main. Wouldn't it be better to locate the cleat forward of the winch, 
deck space permitting? 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII

-----Original Message-----
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On 
Behalf Of Rich Knowles
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 3:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cabin top traveler and mainsheet setup


One other little thing:  I installed a cam cleat on the cabin top immediately 
next to the right side of the main sheet winch. In light to medium air we don't 
use the winch, just drop the line in the cleat as needed. Saves a lot of line 
wrapping, winching and releasing. Fast too. 

Rich 
(mobile)

On 2012-08-02, at 15:52, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> wrote:


Thanks all! That's some great feedback. And you guys are fast!
I've considered moving the traveller aft, but ... it's kind of nice not banging 
body parts on it in the cockpit and the expense it would incur is prohibitive 
at the moment. I need new sails more than I need a new traveler arrangement. 
Primary uses right now are cruising but I would like to start racing once I 
have more experience. Mostly I just want things to be easier on the crew.


I checked out the main sheet systems on Harken's site, some very good info 
there. I think maybe the easiest thing right now will be to go for a 6:1 
purchase. 
I do like the "admiral's cup" setup .. I'm in the habit of sitting on the low 
side and working the genoa sheets while steering anyway, adding the main to 
that arrangement means I can leave my girlfriend be. Problem: I don't have 
secondary winches. I do however, have a pair of Barient 28's (non ST) actually 
serving as weights on a shelf at home and I would love to trade them for some 
smaller self-tailers if anyone is interested. My primaries are Barient 27s, 
self tailing .. and the 28's are too big to be secondaries on my boat. Not sure 
if this is a reasonable trade, I should probably just sell them but I have no 
idea what they're worth. If anyone has any input I'de appreciate it.

Lastly, I ask her to take the wheel all the time for just these reasons! She 
seems to be warming up to it but in general she doesn't like it! She gets 
really nervous and I'm sure my "suppressing criticism" face doesn't help out in 
that regard. I guess I'll just keep doing what I did earlier this week and go 
down below for a nap!


Steve


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