Is the Pearson Flyer you're referring to Wharf Rat? We beat them in the Scituate Invitational last year, but they beat us to second in the Flip Flop a couple of years ago - they are hard to beat; nicely prepared boat and it doesn't hurt to have a sailmaker as a father...
Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Ron Casciato <rjcasci...@comcast.net>wrote: > ** ** ** ** ** > > David:**** > > The PHRF sleeper category has been around for a long time………….**** > > ** ** > > Depending on what class you want to sail in: Fast vs Slower???? You could > start with an old Frers 36 built by Carroll Marine…………Unbeatable in that > class.; You could then move down to an Islander 36 tall rig……….also tough > to get in front of; or as Dennis Conner did several years ago to a Ranger > 26………**** > > ** ** > > The boat to beat in my class (B) 100-130 is an old Pearson Flyer, he’s > been the second Flyer we’ve seen over the last 20 years and both are always > at the front. He’s chased once in a while by a Laser 28……….and then a > Frers 33 and me. Once in a while we get lucky……..most of the time, they’re > just good.**** > > ** ** > > All ratings aside…………you still have to have competitive crew and sail > well…………..**** > > ** ** > > Best,**** > > ** ** > > Ron Casciato**** > > Impromptu**** > > C&C 38MKIIC…..’77**** > > ****Mass** **Bay******** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David > Risch > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:57 AM > *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com** > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating**** > > ** ** > > **Taras**, > > If I were to buy a "PHRF-Beater" (a boat that easily or more easily sails > to its rating) it would be a Frers XX (take your choice). > > Very anecdotal of course, but I have been told, and witnessed myself, that > as a baseline, they seem to have a good rating for their speed. > > My 2 cents... > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > **** > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:25:21 -0400 > From: mike.h...@impgroup.com > To: **cnc-list@cnc-list.com** > Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating**** > > **Taras****** > > **** > > Back to one of your roriginal questions**** > > **** > > 2) This boat also has an additional genoa track closer to the rail. > Should this affect the handicap?**** > > **** > > In most areas moving genoa tracks and other gear on the decks has no > affect on handicap. In our area (****Nova Scotia****) it does not. As a > matter of fact last Spring I installed an additional jib track on our J27 > that was on the deck rather than coach roof to open the slot when sailing > with #3 in windier conditions. This has no effect on rating as is the same > as barber hauling or if more inboard then inhauling ... which we are > supoposed to be doing anyway. The outboard track did have a very positive > effect on boat handling this Fall when the wind came up. We now have three > tracks on each side .. 2 forward and one aft for the #2 & #1**** > > **** > > Mike**** > > **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *TARAS > IWANYCKI > *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:58 PM > *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com** > *Subject:* Stus-List Keel mods vs Phrf Rating**** > > I have a general question about boat dynamics and related phrf rating **** > > I have been racing against a Frers33 this season, a first-time boat owner > with green crew, that cleaned up and won almost everything in all conditions > **** > > Many of us are asking whether is handicap was correct.**** > > The OD rating for the boat is 114 and the owner claimed this for the season > **** > > This boat had it's keel depth shortened by 6-8 inches and added a bulb to > equal the lost keel weight. From what I understand, if you add a bulb to > your keel, it will stiffen the boat's feel....correct? But...**** > > 1) What impact would cutting the keel down and adding a bulb to offset the > lost ballast do? Would she be faster? slower? Point higher? Lower?**** > > 2) This boat also has an additional genoa track closer to the rail. > Should this affect the handicap?**** > > 3) What is the official way of determining the correct handicap? Is there > an official body to address?**** > > ** ** > > Thanks**** > > **Taras****** > > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by > the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com**** > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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