Yes thanks again Dwight. The latter is the option I intend to take. The fellow owns a similar boat I think it's a C&C 30 and gives lessons on it. We have had one "private" lesson on ours. We will have at least a couple more this season, the spinnaker will be a subject of some if this training but I want to be prepared with whatever accessories are necessary and advisable.
And if I'm really not going to need the pole-can get by without it, I'm going to remove it from the boat. Ron On Feb 26, 2013, at 2:07 PM, dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote: > No substitute for experience…either get on board another boat and learn more > there or better still invite someone with experience to help on your boat if > you can…once you know how and when to use your spinnaker you will love it and > you will be very pleased with your sailing skills…best of fun to you > > Dwight Veinot > C&C 35 MKII, Alianna > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye > Sent: February 26, 2013 2:41 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Cruising Spinnaker > > I appreciate the concern Dwight. Indeed there would be just the two of us > most often. I have great respect for these nature forces. Still I would like > to use this if possible at least on occasion. I know an experienced sailor > we can work with and see how feasible it is. Keeping a close watch on > changing conditions I know is important. I also know conditions can change > quickly. > > And when the rain comes it feels like getting hit by hundreds of BBs. > > Ron > > On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:28 PM, dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca> > wrote: > >> You would benefit from the help of skilled crew…no matter how you rig it >> unless you have the “know how” it could be hard and / or even dangerous to >> use or get down “when the wind pipes up and things go crazy.” That is a >> very powerful sail and the lines attached to it and out of control in the >> wind can hit you like flying hammers >> >> Dwight Veinot >> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna >> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye >> Sent: February 26, 2013 1:16 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Cruising Spinnaker >> >> Newbie question on this thread. Lisa and I, after much online research on >> good old boats decided on a 1986 C&C mk iii 35 which we bought last October. >> A boat I can stand up in at last! We sailed it 3 times so far. Previous >> boats were smaller sloop rig and I've never flown a spinnaker. This one >> came with a spinnaker and has the pole nicely strapped down on the deck. >> Previous owner of a dozen years never used the spin and it seemed he thought >> it was more than he wanted to deal with - a fine somewhat elderly gentleman >> who cruised with his wife from the Chesapeake bay to the keys a few times >> and kept his engine spotlessly clean. >> >> I don't recall any extra blocks at the bow. I have the spin in a bag and it >> seems to be in great condition - maybe even new or almost new. It's solid >> red in color if that means anything - probably not, but maybe vintage 1986? >> IDK. Asymmetrical cruising type. >> >> We don't want to race cause we just don't have time. We will day sail and >> do some Multi day cruises as we can. We're on the Chesapeake. I want to >> use the spinnaker this coming season. I just want the thing to pull the >> boat along DDW (or thereabouts) when we need to and not have it look all >> goofy or be too hard or dangerous to deal with when wind pipes up and >> everything goes crazy. >> >> Any advice on how to proceed with a newbie KISS approach would be great. >> Take the pole off the boat and store in the garage for the future owner? >> Ok. I like the sound of that. Do I need to attach a block near the bow? It >> seems a sock would be a good addition. Who sells those and what size do I >> need? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Ron and Lisa >> "Mr Bop" >> 1986 Mk III 35 >> >> On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Pete Shelquist" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> My take down process is the same as Joe’s. One twist when solo; I throw >>> the halyard overboard. Due to drag of the water on the line I pull the >>> chute down vs having it fall in the water. Nice trick and works well >>> whether it’s blowing 5, 15 or whatever. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della >>> Barba, Joe >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:13 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Cruising Spinnaker >>> >>> To add: >>> 99% of the time I am doing this in light air under autopilot. If the wind >>> is heavy enough to make the boat squirrely under Otto I’ll use the genoa >>> instead. To lower I’ll usually pop the shackle off the tack and use the >>> sheet to pull the sail into the cockpit. I tend to raise the sail from the >>> mast and then run the halyard aft to lower it from the cockpit. In real >>> light air it is easy enough to lower it onto the foredeck if you want to. >>> In a race with DDW legs the boats with poles will beat you AND you might >>> take a PHRF* hit for being “different” – this is a cruising technique. >>> There really is nothing quite as nice as making good way in light air under >>> the awning with a cold drink watching the chute while everyone else is >>> going downwind in a cloud of exhaust. >>> >>> * I wonder if anyone would want to make a “cruising chute asym class” where >>> you don’t use bowsprits and set the downwind legs with offset marks. Might >>> be a lot more fun than JAM racing on a light air day and still be doable >>> with a small crew. >>> >>> Joe Della Barba Coquina >>> >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of >>> Frederick G Street >>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 11:06 AM >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Cruising Spinnaker >>> >>> I forgot to mention that Pete Shelquist from this list is selling me a used >>> chute scoop, so I'll add that to the rig. Up until now, if the wind piped >>> up, we had to just let the sheet fly and try to stuff the spin down the >>> forehatch. The scoop should help me out with dousing, and maybe even allow >>> me to fly the spin when single-handing. >>> >>> Also, I DO have a fixed spinnaker pole; but I've never used it, and it's >>> been living off the boat in storage for several years, as it just got >>> underfoot. If anyone has a need for it, let me know -- I'd rather have a >>> whisker pole for the sailing I do. >>> >>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis >>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( >>> >>> On Feb 25, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote: >>> >>> >>> That sounds very similar to the setup I use with my asymmetrical, Fred. I >>> had not thought of using the symmetrical that way. Now that my engine is >>> rebuilt and I may get some sailing in, I'll give it a whirl. >>> >>> Rich Knowles >>> Indigo. 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