Rick, I really like this idea!!!!!
JT
Delaney
C&C 38 MK II
Oriental, NC
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From: Dennis C.
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
We used to have fundraiser regattas where the boats bought seconds. That was
always fun. To stimulate giving, sponsors donated stuff. Buy a bottle of
Bombay rum, get 21 seconds, etc.
We raced Touche' at a PHRF rating of 333 one race. Cost me a ton of $$$ and
we didn't win but it raised a bunch of money.
As to your original question, it's a fundraiser. Boats should be FUN RACING.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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From: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:41 AM
Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
I help out with a local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.
http://www.piratesonpungo.org We are planning to do a couple of special
trophies this year, one of which will go to the C&C sailboat that finishes
first in the long pursuit race on the first day of sailing. While we plan to
have both spin and non-spin classes for the PHRF boats in the regatta (with sub
classes to keep the competition fair for all size boats), we want the special
awards to span both spin and non-spin.
NCPHRF, unlike some other regional PHRF groups, does not grant different
spin and non-spin ratings. And the PHRF base ratings that we use for a lot of
the casual sailors presume a spinnaker.
So we’re thinking about creating an adjusted “NON-SPIN” rating for the
boats in the special trophy groups that will let them compete relatively fairly
with the spin boats in the same special group.
I’ve been told that one of the clubs in Oriental, NC adds an arbitrary 11
seconds to the NCPHRF spin rating to get a “non-spin” rating – regardless of
the size or type of boat. That doesn’t sound like it would be fair to the
smaller boats like the 24, 25, or 27, and it might be generous for the larger
boats like my own 38 or Charlie Nelson’s 36XL.
During the past couple of weeks there was some discussion of how various
clubs and local groups calculate a “non-spin” rating that lets all boats race
in one class. I seem to recall one message that indicated 10% or 15% of the
normal rating was added for a boat racing non-spin. But I think there were
other methods, too.
So the question for the wisdom of the list is this: What is a fair way to
adjust the normal PHRF rating (which presumes a spinnaker) for a boat that is
racing non-spin?
Thanks for your input.
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
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