We used to have fundraiser regattas where the boats bought seconds.  That was 
always fun.   To stimulate giving, sponsors donated stuff.  Buy a bottle of 
Bombay rum, get 21 seconds, etc. 

We raced Touche' at a PHRF rating of 333 one race.  Cost me a ton of $$$ and we 
didn't win but it raised a bunch of money. 

As to your original question, it's a fundraiser.  Boats should be FUN RACING.  

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>________________________________
> From: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 12:41 AM
>Subject: Stus-List PHRF ratings - Spin vs non-spin
> 
>
>I help out with a  local charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo.  
>http://www.piratesonpungo.org   We are planning to do a couple of special 
>trophies this year, one of which will go to the C&C sailboat that finishes 
>first in the long pursuit race on the first day of sailing. While we plan to 
>have both spin and non-spin classes for the PHRF boats in the regatta (with 
>sub classes to keep the competition fair for all size boats), we want the 
>special awards to span both spin and non-spin.
> 
>NCPHRF, unlike some other regional PHRF groups,  does not grant different spin 
>and non-spin ratings. And the PHRF base ratings that we use for a lot of the 
>casual sailors presume a spinnaker.  
> 
>So we’re thinking about creating an adjusted  “NON-SPIN” rating for the boats 
>in the special trophy groups that will let them compete relatively fairly with 
>the spin boats in the same special group.
> 
>I’ve been told that one of the clubs in Oriental, NC adds an arbitrary 11 
>seconds to the NCPHRF spin rating to get a “non-spin” rating – regardless of 
>the size or type of boat. That doesn’t sound like it would be fair to the 
>smaller boats like the 24, 25, or 27, and it might be generous for the larger 
>boats like my own 38 or Charlie Nelson’s 36XL.
> 
>During the past couple of weeks there was some discussion of how various clubs 
>and local groups calculate a “non-spin” rating that lets all boats race in one 
>class. I seem to recall one message that indicated 10% or 15% of the normal 
>rating was added for a boat racing non-spin. But I think there were other 
>methods, too.
> 
>So the question for the wisdom of the list is this: What is a fair way to 
>adjust the normal PHRF rating (which presumes a spinnaker) for a boat that is 
>racing non-spin?
> 
>Thanks for your input.
> 
> 
>Rick Brass
>Washington, NC
> 
> 
> 
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