I'm assuming your traveler is in the original position? Just in front of the
binnacle? I moved mine to the shelf at the companionway - if you have a
dodger, that may be a problem. Forward of that, you may have a load problem,
as it will be forward of the mid-point on the boom. A three block mainsheet
arrangement to spread the load on the boom would be necessary.
As far as removing the back stay for hoisting, we do it all the time when
hauled on the travel lift. The mast is a stump, it is nearly impossible to
bend it, I doubt it would move while not under stress.
Two people will have a real tough time lifting the mast - it takes three of
us, but I'm old.
If the engine was replaced, I would guess that the through-hulls were as
well, mine had gate valves on the cockpit drains, so that was a replacement,
all the rest were either original or replaced with proper bronze.
If the holding tank is not good - there is plenty of room just forward of
the head under the vee berth.
And, if it doesn't have a bunch of the extras that mine does (hot water,
pressure water, three burner propane, etc.) it may come in under 9000
pounds.
Good luck.
Gary
1980 #593
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 12:18 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Possible C&C 30 purchase
Graham,
I asked Belinda what the max capacity was for the club crane when I
started thinking about bigger boats - she told me the max lift is
9000lbs - so the 30 should be fine. I'm trying to stay within the club
capacity a)to save the extra expense of the big crane haul and b)makes
timing for launch and haul easier rather than being scheduled by the big
crane availability.
As for height clearance - I'm not sure what I'd be looking at. I know I
had a problem with my Mirage 24 on the club crane - the mast was too short
and the back stay tangled with the hoist -- I had to remove the stay the
one time I lifted the boat with the mast in place.
Not sure how the C&C 30 would fair in that case, but also not sure if I'd
leave the mast up for winter - dropping the mast on the 24 was a 2 person
job by hand, I'm guessing the mast on the 30 is a whole lot heavier!!! --
I'll get into those questions with this list later if I have the boat.
As for some of the other suggestions. The boat I currently most
interested in has a new diesel in 2000 (Yanmar 18Hp) and a new poly fuel
tank in 2010. The boat is in salt water (Long Island) - possibly with
original rigging.
The boat is a 1979 - no teak/holly floor, but the mast should already be a
bit higher up and not the "roller/reefing" style.
The current mainsheet traveler position looks difficult (easy to tangle
crew, can't use cockpit table under sail and looks hard to sheet in and
out from the helm) -- that said is it safe to move the traveler to forward
of the dodger? - I'd think that would be a huge change of forces to have
it mid-boom rather than end of boom.
I'll put the thru-hulls on the list of upgrades if I get the boat, as well
as making sure the waste tank is solid.
Thanks for all the info. The price on the boat is good (under $16000
US) - but I'll need to get it home from NY - so I'm trying to decide
between a professional captain delivery, shipping it or sailing it back
myself with a couple buddies.
If all looks good when my SailNet contact checks it out next week then
I'll be looking into a proper survey - make sure the rigging and engine
are solid for trip back to NS.
BTW - any thoughts on importing a boat from the US to Canada? I'm assuming
I'll just be paying HST on the purchase price (I bought a little bowrider
power boat in Boston a few years back - pretty simple crossing to border,
just paid HST --- but not sure how it works if I'm sailing home)
Mark
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
On 18/03/2013 9:03 PM, Graham Collins wrote:
Hello Mark
You might want to recheck with the club, I believe the rating on the club
crane is about 6000 lbs and from what I see the C&C 30 is around 8000
lbs. Also check the height clearance. I previously had an Aloha 27, it
was a tight fit. I'm not aware of any 30 footers that get hauled with
that crane. That said, the annual big crane launch and haul isn't much
of a problem. And I have not examined the numbers, it may be possible.
I've sailed on Jeff's C&C 30, it is a fine boat and sailed well in what
I'd guess was > 25 knots. He keeps it at AYC. There are lots of others
in the neighborhood.
Hope the search goes well.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11
BBYC, Halifax
On 2013-03-18 4:33 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote:
Hi All,
I'm new to the list. Just joined up as I'm getting serious about moving
up to a bigger boat.
Currently sail a Mirage 24 in Halifax NS Canada, bought it last year,
loved getting back on the water, but it's a little small to spend much
time aboard with my 4 kids.
After extensive online research and scanning Yachtworld and local boats
I've narrowed down on trying to get a C&C 30. Seems to be the right
size - small enough to singlehand, and light enough for our club crane
to hoist, but still big enough to spend some time out on the water.
I've read most everything on the C&C site, including a bunch of the
mailing list archives. Was on a local boat here the other day - getting
an idea of the size and space.
I know the mast step is prone to softening, and the ports will likely
need replacement (if not done already), plus there are the typical
issues with the deck core, chainplates, standing rigging etc that can be
problematic with any older boats.
Any specific advice on things I need to watch for? I have someone I've
chatted with on SailNet who has offered to check out one boat for me (in
Long Island NY there is a nice looking 30 for sale - new diesel in 2000,
well fitted out)
Thanks in advance for the advice,
Mark
There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
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