There is nothing to prevent you from having safety equipment of any type, so long as you have at least the minimum mandatory equipment on board, and a life ring is mandatory.
Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:59 AM To: 'Allen Miles'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List MOB recovery procedures I have a horseshoe as well but I don't believe the horseshoe is considered adequate by Canadian Coast Guard standards.a fully closed life ring is what they require although I have never been challenged for carrying the horseshoe on the stern.I would much prefer as a MOB getting hit in the head by a flying horseshoe than by a solid polymer life ring Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Allen Miles Sent: May 24, 2013 10:47 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List MOB recovery procedures We've practiced this maneuver as part of an Albemarle Sail & Power Squadron demonstration of the difficulties in recovering MOB. Horseshoe goes into the water as soon as MOB declared to give helm a more visible target and victim added buoyancy. We deploy Life Sling when approaching downwind and steer a comma course to bring sling to MOB. If you circle, sling will never approach MOB. In four foot waves you'll lose MOB in troughs unless they're close to a highly visible floating object. My old horseshoe was bright orange: Sandy deposited it who knows where. New one is white. Allen Miles S/V Septima 30-2 Hampton, VA -----Original Message----- From: Rick Brass Sent: May 24, 2013 9:07 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List MOB recovery procedures I use a Life Sling with 100 ft of floating line instead of a life ring, but that said I see no purpose to deploying it with the MOB pole. The boat is already away from the MOB and moving further away, available manpower is better used for sail handling, and the float and line would just be another potential complication when we stop the boat, strike sail, and start the engine. I'd rather deploy it in an orderly manner as we move back to the MOB. That way we can stream it behind the boat and circle the MOB to bring the line and float into the person in the water. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 8:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List MOB recovery procedures Rick What about the life ring with a long (50 feet) floating line attached.does that go over automatically when you deploy the MOB pole? Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass Sent: May 24, 2013 9:29 AM To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List MOB recovery procedures I tell my crew that the person who yells "Man Overboard" then has only one job - to point one hand at the person in the water and to NOT take their eyes off the head of the person. To see why, go out one day when it is blowing 10knots, throw one of your fenders over, go another 100 yards or so, then look back and see if you can find your fender. Helmsman's first job when hearing "Man Overboard" is to get the MOB pole into the water. In case the first person slips in doing their job. Then our process id to go into irons to strike the main halyard and roll up the headsail, start the engine, and turn back to the MOB. I have a Life Sling on the stern pulpit, so we will circle the MOB under power to bring the Life Sling to him, and then pull him in to the stern boarding ladder. If I need to bring someone over the side, my main halyard is long enough to run through a snatch block at the end of the boom and reach the water, which will allow me to use the boom and Barient 27 self-tailer on the cabin top as a crane to lift the MOB and swing him aboard. My first preference would be to use the leeward side, since the MOB would not need to swim after the boat as it drifts down wind faster than a man in the water ever will. Rck Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 1:36 AM To: CnClist Subject: Stus-List MOB recovery procedures Racing season is ramping up. Time to discuss MOB procedures. This ought to be interesting. Here's a couple of reference sites. Note the different procedures and the advantages of each. <http://www.gosailing.info/Man%20Overboard.htm> <http://www.rorc.org/general-conditions/man-overboard.html> Note the disagreement on whether to recover the MOB on the windward or the leeward side. Also note that one site recommends immediate deployment of the MOB marker and one site says to deploy it if first attempt at recovery fails. Which methods do you favor? Are you prepared? Does your crew know what to do? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3184/5853 - Release Date: 05/24/13 size=1 width="100%" noshade color="#aca899" align=center> No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3184/5853 - Release Date: 05/24/13
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