I second Dennis' suggestion to get a Garhauer rigid vang. I did - and Guido at Garhauer had me send the profile of the mast and boom and they made pads to fit both. Six or eight screws for each. I drilled and tapped the mast and boom and screwed the pads in - done!
We have a boomkicker on the J-80 I race on and I am not thrilled. It does the job but seems to be more difficult to modulate how much tension you have. Just my opinion. Gary 30-1 ----- Original Message ----- From: randy To: 'Peter Fell' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:56 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III Personally, I wouldn’t suggest that. At least not if I’m picturing your picture correct. Unless you unstep the mast, and take everything apart, wouldn’t you have to go all the way thru the cabin? Most of us on the list like to over drill holes in the core, and fill w/ epoxy, then drill for the mounting. If you just punch holes thru, I’d be concerned about eventual water intrusion thru the hole, which is undoubtedly solid something under the mast, but working its way to the core elsewhere. Just my two cents. Bails on masts are used for vangs all the time, especially on the smaller (no offense, me too! ;-) ) boats. But do also consider the addition of a rigid vang. I love my boom kicker, fits in the mast track slot, and no topping lift! Just my two cents. There’s lots of opinions here, you get to choose! randy Tamanawas 29-II Hood River, OR From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:12 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III Lots of good ideas here. Thanks guys. What about through-bolting an eye pad on the mast step bracket itself? I’d have to check the available space in there. From: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:01 AM To: CnC Subject: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III +1 I've had a Garhauer rigid boom vang for about 10 years. Good price for a good chunk of stainless and a worthwhile upgrade. Also gets rid of the topping lift! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: Dennis C. Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:09 AM To: Peter Fell; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III Peter, A very good option would be install a hinged vang bracket near the bottom of your mast. Garhauer makes these for their rigid boom vangs and will custom make one to fit your mast. Their pricing is fairly reasonable. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Fell <prf...@gmail.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <CnC-List@cnc-list.com> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:18 PM Subject: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III My C&C 27 has a mast-step that looks like this: http://imageshack.us/a/img191/407/ubt7.jpg The previous owner had attached the 4:1 purchase boom vang to the 45 degree side plate which has resulted in bending the side plate! It was recommended to me to use a boom/mast bail bolted across the vertical portion of the mast-step bracket at the aft-most set of holes, with a bolt and filler ‘tube’ to avoid compressing the mast step bracket. Or to replace the aft mast-retention pin with the same set-up. Dimensions of the mast step (‘vertical’ bracket) are: Outside width = 5 inches Inside width = 4-1/4 inches Hole diameter = 7/8 inches Pin diameter = 5/8 inches 2 problems I am finding: 1) I can’t find a 5-inch wide bail 2) The larger size bails I have found (maybe 4 inch wide is the largest I’ve seen?) use a smaller bolt than 5/8 inches and no meat to drill out the holes in them, so there would be a lot of ‘slop’ there. I’m also concerned that if the boom vang can bend that mast-step side plate, what’s it going to do to a side-loaded bail and/or the vertical mast-step bracket? So ... perhaps a mast tang / hound? (much as I hate drilling holes in the mast ... but multiple holes would spread the load). I have read somewhere that part of the side of the standard C&C mast section is thicker which helps with this sort of thing? Can anyone verify? Sorry, didn’t measure the mast width. There’s also the sail track there that would complicate a tang / hound installation. By the way, the previous owner also bent the heck out of the through-bolt on the boom bail. I’ve replaced that with a new SS bolt Thanks! _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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