Another strong vote for Garhauer.
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From: Peter Fell <prf...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:43:52 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
Well, at this junction, the vang attachment will be a ‘cheap and cheerful’
solution ... considering my boat is sitting at the dock with the engine pulled
for a rebuild. I did just splurge for new Harken blocks for the vang and the
backstay tensioner (the PO had one block configured back there with the line
tied off on the stern rail!).
But I’m trying not to look at mainsail traveller and think how it would be much
easier to replace it right now while the engine is out.
From: Dennis C.
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:54 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
Actually, my suggestion was to get only the bracket and clip the rope vang to
it.Yeah, a Garhauer rigid vang would be the absolute bomb!As for the pad eye,
look at an investment cast one like a Schaefer 78-98. Locate it as far down
the mast as possible. Drill and tap into the back Forward flat part) of the
sail track. Install with flat head machine screws. Attach the rope vang and
go sailing.I have a similar install on Touche' for an outhaul turning block and
have done same on other boats.Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
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>From: Gary Nylander <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:09 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
>
>
>
>I second Dennis' suggestion to get a Garhauer rigid vang. I did - and Guido at
>Garhauer had me send the profile of the mast and boom and they made pads to
>fit both. Six or eight screws for each. I drilled and tapped the mast and boom
>and screwed the pads in - done!
>
>We have a boomkicker on the J-80 I race on and I am not thrilled. It does the
>job but seems to be more difficult to modulate how much tension you have. Just
>my opinion.
>
>Gary
>30-1
>----- Original Message -----
>>From: randy
>>To: 'Peter Fell' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 3:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
>>
>>Personally, I wouldn’t suggest that. At least not if I’m picturing your
>>picture correct. Unless you unstep the mast, and take everything apart,
>>wouldn’t you have to go all the way thru the cabin? Most of us on the list
>>like to over drill holes in the core, and fill w/ epoxy, then drill for the
>>mounting. If you just punch holes thru, I’d be concerned about eventual
>>water intrusion thru the hole, which is undoubtedly solid something under the
>>mast, but working its way to the core elsewhere. Just my two cents. Bails
>>on masts are used for vangs all the time, especially on the smaller (no
>>offense, me too! ;-) ) boats. But do also consider the addition of a rigid
>>vang. I love my boom kicker, fits in the mast track slot, and no topping
>>lift! Just my two cents. There’s lots of opinions here, you get to choose!
>>
>>
>>randy
>>Tamanawas
>>29-II
>>Hood River, OR
>>
>>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell
>>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:12 AM
>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
>>
>>Lots of good ideas here. Thanks guys.
>>
>>What about through-bolting an eye pad on the mast step bracket itself? I’d
>>have to check the available space in there.
>>
>>
>>
>>From:sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
>>Sent:Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:01 AM
>>To:CnC
>>Subject:Stus-List Fw: Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
>>
>>+1
>>I've had a Garhauer rigid boom vang for about 10 years. Good price for a good
>>chunk of stainless and a worthwhile upgrade.
>>Also gets rid of the topping lift!
>>sam :-)
>>C&C 26 Liquorice
>>Ghost Lake Alberta
>>From: Dennis C.
>>Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 9:09 AM
>>To: Peter Fell; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>Reply To: Dennis C.
>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
>>
>>Peter,
>>
>>A very good option would be install a hinged vang bracket near the bottom of
>>your mast. Garhauer makes these for their rigid boom vangs and will custom
>>make one to fit your mast. Their pricing is fairly reasonable.
>>
>>Dennis C.
>>Touche' 35-1 #83
>>Mandeville, LA
>>
>>
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>>>________________________________
>>>
>>>From:Peter Fell <prf...@gmail.com>
>>>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <CnC-List@cnc-list.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:18 PM
>>>Subject: Stus-List Boom Vang for C&C 27 Mk III
>>>
>>>My C&C 27 has a mast-step that looks like this:
>>>
>>>http://imageshack.us/a/img191/407/ubt7.jpg
>>>
>>>The previous owner had attached the 4:1 purchase boom vang to the 45 degree
>>>side plate which has resulted in bending the side plate!
>>>
>>>It was recommended to me to use a boom/mast bail bolted across the vertical
>>>portion of the mast-step bracket at the aft-most set of holes, with a bolt
>>>and filler ‘tube’ to avoid compressing the mast step bracket. Or to replace
>>>the aft mast-retention pin with the same set-up.
>>>
>>>Dimensions of the mast step (‘vertical’ bracket) are:
>>>
>>>Outside width = 5 inches
>>>Inside width = 4-1/4 inches
>>>Hole diameter = 7/8 inches
>>>Pin diameter = 5/8 inches
>>>
>>>2 problems I am finding:
>>>
>>>1) I can’t find a 5-inch wide bail
>>>2) The larger size bails I have found (maybe 4 inch wide is the largest I’ve
>>>seen?) use a smaller bolt than 5/8 inches and no meat to drill out the holes
>>>in them, so there would be a lot of ‘slop’ there.
>>>
>>>I’m also concerned that if the boom vang can bend that mast-step side plate,
>>>what’s it going to do to a side-loaded bail and/or the vertical mast-step
>>>bracket?
>>>
>>>So ... perhaps a mast tang / hound? (much as I hate drilling holes in the
>>>mast ... but multiple holes would spread the load). I have read somewhere
>>>that part of the side of the standard C&C mast section is thicker which
>>>helps with this sort of thing? Can anyone verify? Sorry, didn’t measure the
>>>mast width. There’s also the sail track there that would complicate a tang /
>>>hound installation.
>>>
>>>By the way, the previous owner also bent the heck out of the through-bolt on
>>>the boom bail. I’ve replaced that with a new SS bolt
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
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