Hey Steve, I'm wondering about your information regarding one handed folding knives in Canada. I have several in fact it's all I buy. Is the limitation more to do with spring loaded style jack knives? By one handed operation I refer to the type that have a pin on the blade that you put your thumb against and rotate to open with no preloaded assistance. That in combo with a flick of the wrist one hand opens the blade quickly. I keep one clipped to my harness. My other safety for single handing is a floating VHF clipped to me as well. I know my chances of getting back on the boat are poor but the idea of talking to the coastguard as I watch my boat sail away from me is comforting. I'm just not sure how far from land I can go at water level for a clear broadcast.
Brent D 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone > > Random thoughts: > > 1. Industrial fall harnesses have a tether attachment at the back because a > "fall arrest" from that direction is less likely to cause a back injury. Your > spine can bend forward further than backward, at least that is what they > taught us in the working at heights safety courses at Ford. The assumption is > that you hang there until someone comes and rescues you. I think that for > marine applications the tether attachment in front makes more sense. > > 2. A friend of mine actually fell overboard while in the process of lowering > a hanked-on foresail at night. He was tethered and managed to get back on > board only because the boat was plunging into the waves so much that he was > carried back up by the waves. Conditions were such that when he returned to > the cockpit, the other crew were unaware that he been over the side. (They > had come out past a point of land and "discovered" considerably higher wind > and seas than expected. It was off either Rondeau or Point Pelee, I forget > which, on Lake Erie.) > > 3. Standard harnesses don't have crotch straps. They should. A harness and or > lifejacket is not much good if you slip out of it. It is not difficult to add > one using standard webbing and hardware. I was taught this "trick" by a guy > who used to train crews for the British Telecom around the world races. > > 4. The GLSS (Great Lakes Singlehanded Society) that Bill Coleman provided a > link to, has done considerable work on the subject of tethers and jack lines. > It is worth taking a look at their rules, and the video of their outboard > system in action. The question of how you might switch from one attachment > point to another is not addressed in the video. The basic idea is that you > use 2 sets of jack lines. One set is rigged central to the boat with the idea > of keeping you on board. The other set is rigged outside of the lifelines. > The outside jack line extends back to where there is a re-boarding ladder > mounted on the side, and crew is equipped with dual tethers so that it is > possible to clip on to the desired line before unclipping from the inboard > attachment point. It is the only system I have ever seen where you actually > have a fighting chance of getting back on board unassisted. > > 5. One of the GLSS suggested pieces of equipment, a folding knife that can be > opened one handed, is illegal in Canada, and visiting sailors should be aware > of that fact. Possession is a criminal offence. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gQbDzXAOdY&context=C3eea170ADOEgsToPDskJJp-f-bBF0SutwvJyyAoGV > > http://www.solosailor.org/pdfs/Std_GLSSRequiredEquip.pdf > > Steve Thomas > C&C27 MKIII > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Dennis C. > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:22 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List safety tethers > > Tether attachment to the back is standard in industrial fall protection. > > <https://www.millerfallprotection.com/fall-protection-products/body-wear/full-body-harnesses> > > You can grab one on eBay for about $30. See eBay listing 280932207169. > > If I went with one of these, I'd want to figure out a foolproof way to pull > the quick release on my tether. Would be difficult reaching over my shoulder > and trying to pull it. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > > > On Friday, October 25, 2013 9:56 PM, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the heads up on that one Graham, that modification makes sense. I > wonder if any of the local manufacturers (say Mustang) will licence and > incorporate that in their own products? > > Ken H. > > > On 25 October 2013 22:53, Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm hoping this will PFD / harness eventually become available / approved in > Canada, I may buy a couple in any case since I think it is a superior > solution if attached to jacklines. > http://teamomarine.com/ > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 >> On 2013-10-25 10:00 PM, Bill Bina wrote: >> Coupla minor points that could save a life: Andrew is 100% correct that >> staying on the boat is far superior. If you go in the water you are more >> likely to die, than not, regardless of anything else. Not only do you need a >> quick release, but you need to make sure you can release it with either >> hand, while suspended with your FULL weight on the quick release. (feet not >> touching anything solid) >> >> If you do find yourself being dragged behind the boat, get on your back. >> Your shoulders will plane you to get your face out of the water more, and >> you will also have far less drag preventing you from pulling your way back >> to the boat. Trust me when I tell you that even Hulk Hogan would probably >> not be able to pull himself back to a boat going 6 knots unless he was on >> his back. If you are not Hulk Hogan, your limit is less than 4 knots. >> >> One friend of mine tells students to regard water as if it was molten lava. >> If you fall in, you are likely dead. That's what the stats say. >> >> Bill Bina >> >>> On 10/25/2013 8:00 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: >>> I towed a crew member behind the boat at 4 knots in each of several >>> harnesses. (We were in the Caribbean) In every case the crew member would >>> have drowned had he not released his harness from his tether. My plan when >>> I'm rigging jack lines is to keep the crew on the boat. I also run them >>> inboard of the shrouds and keep them tight. I can't emphasize enough the >>> importance of having a quick release on the harness so if a crew goes over >>> the side he can get off the tow line before he drowns. >>> Andy >>> C&C 40 >>> Peregrine >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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