Hi Mark
Congrats!
As others have mentioned, I will add my voice - get the engine checked
out. If the engine doesn't run then she is no bargain.
I'd also lean toward getting a survey done, the one provided does appear
to be an "insurance grade" survey.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11
On 2013-10-28 3:45 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote:
I now have an accepted offer on
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/Cs-30-2254686/Chester-Basin/Canada#.Um6d-fmsiM4
I think I got them as low as they would go. They started at $32000
Cdn - in the end we agreed to $22500. I have to pay for the winter
storage and the broker took $1000 decrease in fees to get the boat
sold. The seller is adamant that they will not lower the purchase
price irrespective of new survey results.
I think it's a good deal. I could get a similar boat for a little
less in Boston, but shipping it back adds to the hassle and eats up
much of the savings. I took Mike's advice and tried to negotiate the
local boat rather than trying to buy something 1200km away.
This boat looks great in the photos - but it's been on the hard for
the last 2 years. Well stored, dry, under a custom cover, but it does
have some issues that will need to be addressed. Simple stuff like
oiling the teak and cleaning. Re-covering cushions. A little bit of
repair work on some wood. Few bigger issues - the cradle needs repair
(metal so I'll likely need to get a welder at it), the main side
windows have vertical cracks so all the plexi will need to be replaced.
Engine has been serviced regularly (and re-winterized while on the hard).
Rich had commented that I might be chasing rainbows, trying to find a
boat that could do everything for me but not spend any money. We
didn't get out for a beer yet, but I did take his advice and move my
purchase price up so I could get a better condition boat rather than
searching for the super bargain. I think size wise this boat gives me
enough room to enjoy with the family, but still small enough to keep
the work load and costs manageable.
Recent survey is attached. My question - would you re-survey the
boat? The survey seems rather superficial - maybe just done for
insurance purposes? Boat has not been in the water since the survey.
I spent about 75min crawling around the boat with the broker. Tapped
at the deck with the handle of a screwdriver, plus used my cdn tire
moisture meter - sounded ok to me (no dead spots), the moisture meter
picked up a couple areas that were slightly higher than others (25% vs
16-18% I think).
Hull and deck looked good - even with no deformations. Engine had a
bit of surface rust.
Few interior stains on woodwork - but all looked/felt solid.
I'm planning on heading back down myself to dig through the sails in
the storage locker and the other gear before we finalize - but I'm not
sure if I should do a new survey.
BTW - thanks for all the help getting to this point. I've learned a
lot from watching the discussions going back and forth and I've saved
multiple email threads in preparation for things like re-plumbing my
head etc.
Even if I end up with the CS, I will likely continue to lurk on this
list - too much good info to pass it up.
Mark
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*CONDITIONAL SURVEY*
*VESSEL: "SEA FEVER"*
*March 2012*
At the request of the Owner I carried out a Conditional Survey on the
C.S. 30 Fibreglass Sloop "Sea Fever".
The vessel is in winter storage at Gold River Marina and the steering
wheel, the electronics, batteries and life saving equipment have been
removed from the vessel and retained by the Owner.
_*Underwater Hull -- *_Generally in good condition with the following
defects:
_*Starboard Side*_
The fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The cracking
is not into the hull and is not considered significant. It has had a
recent repair but should be reworked.
The strut for the propeller shaft has cracking around the hull
connection and the filling has worked loose.
_*Port Side*_
The fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The cracking
is not into the hull and is not considered significant.
The strut for the propeller shaft has cracking around the hull
connection and the filling has worked loose.
There are a few places where the glass covering on the keel have worn
through and the lead keel is exposed.
There are 2 small knicks in the fibreglass on the transom.
_*Antifouling*_
Antifouling should be re-coated.
_*Rudder*_
**Good condition but some fibreglass cracking around**the pintle bearing.
2
_*Propellor & Shaft*_
Good condition overall.
_*Topsides*_
The topsides are in good condition. No evidence of cracks or stress.
No dock damage, but should be polished.
_*Deck Area*_
The deck is in good condition with no gel coat cracking. Stanchions
are in good condition.
The forward hatch glass cover is water stained.
There are 2 Lewmar 30 winches and 2 Lewmar 43 winches, all in good
working condition.
_*Interior*_
The interior is in good condition but shows evidence of water leaks,
the brightwork requires refinishing, the settee cushions are in good
condition.
The bilges are clean with no obvious oil leaks. There is a 2-1/2lb dry
chemical extinguisher adjacent to the engine box, which appears to be
in good condition, but has no expiry date. It is fully charged at this
time. There is a second 2-1/2lb chemical extinguisher adjacent to the
galley stove. This is not mounted on a bulkhead and in places the
paint on the body of this unit is peeling. It shows fully charged but
I would recommend replacement.
The galley stove is a 2 burner propane unit with an oven, it appears
to be in reasonable condition. The propane cylinder is stored in a
locker in the stern of the vessel.
The head is located at the forward end on the starboard side, this is
in a clean and good working condition.
The batteries have an approved type shut off switch. They were in
storage and not on board at the time of inspection.
3
_*Engine*_
The engine compartment has antifreeze under the engine and there is
leak from the circulating pump. The engine is a 2 cylinder Volvo Penta
with a reduction gear. Oil levels were checked and were satisfactory.
The through hulls were hammer tested and appear satisfactory.
_*Electrical*_
The electrical wiring is in good condition. The system has a battery
shut off switch and a breaker panel. Both are clean and dry and in
good condition.**
_*Equipment*_
All of the navigation equipment and safety equipment have been removed
for the winter.
There is a 6" Galaxy compass in the cockpit, which is in good
condition with no air bubbles. A Plough anchor with sufficient rode is
located in the fore peak - good condition.
_*Rigging*_
The standing rigging is all stainless steel and in good condition. The
running rigging is in reasonable condition.
_*Recommendations*_
1. Replace the galley fire extinguisher
2. Have the propane system inspected by a licensed service person
3. Check rockets and flares for expiry dates
4. Repair cracks around rudder pintle
5. Repair cracks around keel to hull joint
4
_*Conclusion*_
The overall condition is good and this boat is suitable for the
intended service.
Some cleaning is required inside the boat.
I would anticipate the present day value to be in the range of $39,000
Alan H. Altass
(S.N.A.M.E. - C.I.M.E.)
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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