That survey is superficial enough to be just for insurance. Yes, get a real survey. I would not buy a boat without one. It could cost you a few hundred, it could save you many thousands...
On 28 October 2013 11:45, Dr. Mark Bodnar <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote: > > > I now have an accepted offer on > > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/Cs-30-2254686/Chester-Basin/Canada#.Um6d-fmsiM4 > > I think I got them as low as they would go. They started at $32000 Cdn - > in the end we agreed to $22500. I have to pay for the winter storage and > the broker took $1000 decrease in fees to get the boat sold. The seller is > adamant that they will not lower the purchase price irrespective of new > survey results. > > I think it's a good deal. I could get a similar boat for a little less in > Boston, but shipping it back adds to the hassle and eats up much of the > savings. I took Mike's advice and tried to negotiate the local boat rather > than trying to buy something 1200km away. > > This boat looks great in the photos - but it's been on the hard for the > last 2 years. Well stored, dry, under a custom cover, but it does have > some issues that will need to be addressed. Simple stuff like oiling the > teak and cleaning. Re-covering cushions. A little bit of repair work on > some wood. Few bigger issues - the cradle needs repair (metal so I'll > likely need to get a welder at it), the main side windows have vertical > cracks so all the plexi will need to be replaced. > Engine has been serviced regularly (and re-winterized while on the hard). > > Rich had commented that I might be chasing rainbows, trying to find a boat > that could do everything for me but not spend any money. We didn't get out > for a beer yet, but I did take his advice and move my purchase price up so > I could get a better condition boat rather than searching for the super > bargain. I think size wise this boat gives me enough room to enjoy with > the family, but still small enough to keep the work load and costs > manageable. > > Recent survey is attached. My question - would you re-survey the boat? > The survey seems rather superficial - maybe just done for insurance > purposes? Boat has not been in the water since the survey. > > I spent about 75min crawling around the boat with the broker. Tapped at > the deck with the handle of a screwdriver, plus used my cdn tire moisture > meter - sounded ok to me (no dead spots), the moisture meter picked up a > couple areas that were slightly higher than others (25% vs 16-18% I > think). > Hull and deck looked good - even with no deformations. Engine had a bit > of surface rust. > Few interior stains on woodwork - but all looked/felt solid. > > I'm planning on heading back down myself to dig through the sails in the > storage locker and the other gear before we finalize - but I'm not sure if > I should do a new survey. > > BTW - thanks for all the help getting to this point. I've learned a lot > from watching the discussions going back and forth and I've saved multiple > email threads in preparation for things like re-plumbing my head etc. > Even if I end up with the CS, I will likely continue to lurk on this list > - too much good info to pass it up. > > Mark > > > ----------------- > > *CONDITIONAL SURVEY* > > *VESSEL: “SEA FEVER”* > > *March 2012* > > At the request of the Owner I carried out a Conditional Survey on the > C.S. 30 Fibreglass Sloop “Sea Fever”. > > The vessel is in winter storage at Gold River Marina and the steering > wheel, the electronics, batteries and life saving equipment have been > removed from the vessel and retained by the Owner. > > *Underwater Hull – *Generally in good condition with the following > defects: > > *Starboard Side* > > The fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The cracking is > not into the hull and is not considered significant. It has had a recent > repair but should be reworked. > > The strut for the propeller shaft has cracking around the hull connection > and the filling has worked loose. > > *Port Side* > > The fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The cracking is > not into the hull and is not considered significant. > > The strut for the propeller shaft has cracking around the hull connection > and the filling has worked loose. > > There are a few places where the glass covering on the keel have worn > through and the lead keel is exposed. > > There are 2 small knicks in the fibreglass on the transom. > > *Antifouling* > > Antifouling should be re-coated. > > *Rudder* > > * *Good condition but some fibreglass cracking around* *the pintle > bearing. > > 2 > *Propellor & Shaft* > > Good condition overall. > > *Topsides* > > The topsides are in good condition. No evidence of cracks or stress. No > dock damage, but should be polished. > > *Deck Area* > > The deck is in good condition with no gel coat cracking. Stanchions are in > good condition. > > The forward hatch glass cover is water stained. > > There are 2 Lewmar 30 winches and 2 Lewmar 43 winches, all in good working > condition. > > *Interior* > > The interior is in good condition but shows evidence of water leaks, the > brightwork requires refinishing, the settee cushions are in good condition. > > The bilges are clean with no obvious oil leaks. There is a 2-1/2lb dry > chemical extinguisher adjacent to the engine box, which appears to be in > good condition, but has no expiry date. It is fully charged at this time. > There is a second 2-1/2lb chemical extinguisher adjacent to the galley > stove. This is not mounted on a bulkhead and in places the paint on the > body of this unit is peeling. It shows fully charged but I would recommend > replacement. > > The galley stove is a 2 burner propane unit with an oven, it appears to be > in reasonable condition. The propane cylinder is stored in a locker in the > stern of the vessel. > > The head is located at the forward end on the starboard side, this is in a > clean and good working condition. > > The batteries have an approved type shut off switch. They were in storage > and not on board at the time of inspection. > > 3 > > *Engine* > > The engine compartment has antifreeze under the engine and there is leak > from the circulating pump. The engine is a 2 cylinder Volvo Penta with a > reduction gear. Oil levels were checked and were satisfactory. > > The through hulls were hammer tested and appear satisfactory. > > *Electrical* > > The electrical wiring is in good condition. The system has a battery shut > off switch and a breaker panel. Both are clean and dry and in good > condition.* * > > *Equipment* > > All of the navigation equipment and safety equipment have been removed for > the winter. > > There is a 6" Galaxy compass in the cockpit, which is in good condition > with no air bubbles. A Plough anchor with sufficient rode is located in the > fore peak - good condition. > > *Rigging* > > The standing rigging is all stainless steel and in good condition. The > running rigging is in reasonable condition. > > *Recommendations* > > 1. Replace the galley fire extinguisher > > 2. Have the propane system inspected by a licensed service person > > 3. Check rockets and flares for expiry dates > > 4. Repair cracks around rudder pintle > > 5. Repair cracks around keel to hull joint > > 4 > > > *Conclusion* > > The overall condition is good and this boat is suitable for the intended > service. > > Some cleaning is required inside the boat. > > I would anticipate the present day value to be in the range of $39,000 > > Alan H. Altass > > (S.N.A.M.E. - C.I.M.E.) > > > -- > > --------------------- > Dr. Mark Bodnar > B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) > Bedford Chiropracticwww.bedfordchiro.ca > --------------------- > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > - George Santayana > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC
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