Okay, I removed the rudder today. It does not weigh much at all,
There are no bearings. It is just a fiberglass tube that fits tightly around the 1-7/8" shaft. There were just 2 - 4"x1/4" nylon(?) washers between the pin that holds the rudder in place and the aluminum flange fitting in the cockpit. It really is just hung there. I couldn't help but to think that a SS washer on top of the 2 nylon(?) washers would be a good idea. It was apparent that these washers had been switched around a few times by the marks from the pin on both sides of both nylon(?) washers. So my thoughts ar maybe to just re install it and add a big 'ol fender washer for the pin to rest on. However, my only concern is what the stainless shaft looks like inside the rudder... https://korpoq.blu.livefilestore.com/y2pq2xBqhOTnVi8a3qjlKe3d3z5mZu4DLyvgdLO1n4y4kIAj-jz0KUR4EKzhrOKdm1UOBEIjnGtt3_lyaNLYnVRVciZi9tZT2-gzJtkcwoy1K8/20131111_132315.jpg In case that link doesn't work, here is a link to a folder with a bunch of boat pics. The photos from today are all the way at the end. Thanks again for any insights, observations or ideas. Danny ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:54:01 +0000 > It doesn't weigh much. Not sure if that is good or bad. < Calypso's displacement is in the 24,000lb range. I have been told the original Bruckmann built rudder was lost in the early 70's on the way to Bermuda. The replacement rudder may be overbuilt but I do not worry it will fail under any conditions we are likely to push Calypso into in the near future. Much of the rig and steering related gear on the early Bruckmann built 43's appears to be the same spec as what was used on the early 61's. The lower rudder bearing assembly is cast bronze and bolts on from the outside. Think 2' long and 1' wide, faired into the hull shape, penetrating 1' into the hull with a machined load bearing collar/stuffing box assembly on top. Frick'n massive, and heavy. Given that we mostly race Calypso these days and the propensity for light air in the PNW a lighter rudder may not be bad. Having said that our last day of racing saw steady winds in the mid 20's and gusts close to 30. The rudder/steering gear work this summer was a comfort as we ducked a starboard tacker with maybe a little too much mainsheet on. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing OTOH I can carry my rudder around myself. It doesn't weigh much. Not sure if that is good or bad. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 1:18 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing > I guess I should commandeer a couple people to help drop that rudder.< When dropping Calypso's rudder (large fiberglass over balsa with 3" dia. SS heavy wall tube shaft) this summer we used 4 to 5 people. My guess is it weighs 200 to 250 lbs. We were just barely able to clear the pavement with the boat in its normal yard position. The backup plan was to spend the $$ to have the travel lift raise Calypso to give us the extra clearance. We had cushioning material under the rudder in case it slipped from our grip and set up blocks to stabilize it 1/2 way out to allow for re-positioning of the muscle. Prior to this summer's rudder repair project I dreaded the need to drop it out of the boat. Now that I have done it the project seems no worse than any other yard project. The more difficult part was working in the tight spaces around the quadrant. Do take pictures and measurements of how the steering gear is set up. I should have taken much better measurements of the position of the quadrant to avoid having to make a 3/8" adjustment to perfect the steering cable alignment. Calypso's rudder bearing assemblies are much different than those described for a Viking 33 but I did perform a complete inspection of the shaft and the bearing surfaces looking for wear and corrosion. I made detailed measurements of the rudder and shaft in case of future repairs. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing "what, it's the first hole I dug?" the 33 came with a tiller too. Mine was converted over to a wheel but, the tiller fitting is still there. I guess I should commandeer a couple people to help drop that rudder. Danny _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
