well, I don't know exactly how much play.  I just know there is play.  Yea I 
can lift the rudder a 1/4".  I could also go to 2- 3/16" thick delrin washers 
if I was worried.  Or I could just have 2 of each made and play around with it. 
At the bottom, it could actually have been play at the top and when I was 
pulling on the rudder, the point where the rudder exits the hull could have 
been a fulcrum point and only appeared to be sloppy.  I'll have to take some 
careful measures it seems... Danny

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:45:24 -0500


Dan, How much play is there? &#65533;Looks like a pretty tight fit without a 
bearing. &#65533;Can you lift up the rudder 1/4 inch to compensate for the SS 
washer?&#65533; Joel

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> wrote:
3 5/8" Delrin rod could be hard to come by, 4" is probably the closest you'll 
find (even at McMaster-Carr). But it does machine beautifully so you could turn 
it to size on a lathe. My rudder is essentially the same construction except it 
has a knurled nut on top that rides on the Delrin instead of a pin. 

On 12 November 2013 10:31, djhaug...@juno.com <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:I'm 
going to have to look closer but, all I could really see was the fiberglass 
tube with an aluminum flange at the top and the rudder basically hangs by a pin 
from there. &#65533;2 1/2" thick teflon looking "washers" keep the pin off the 
aluminum and pretty much ride on each other to reduce friction. &#65533;I was 
thinking of just adding an SS washer to try and distribute the point loads from 
the pin. &#65533;I'm thinking a should just replace those 2 teflon looking 
washers as long as I have it apart. &#65533;But, honestly, I think they would 
work just fine. &#65533;I think the idea is just to keep thinks nice and 
slippery up at the top. &#65533;Although, a nice tight fit would keep it from 
moving about. &#65533;Maybe I should take some good measurements with a caliper 
and have something machined for the top and the bottom?&#65533;It's obvious 
this rudder has been removed a number of times. &#65533;I'm wondering whether 
or not it would get dropped every few years to add anti fouling between the 
hull and the rudder. &#65533;&#65533;So, maybe I get 1'-0" length of 3-5/8" 
delrin rod and have all those pieces fabricated at a machine shop? 
&#65533;Then,slap it all back together? &#65533;&#65533;I keep thinking I 
should improve upon what is there just because I have it all 
apart.&#65533;&#65533;

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Dennis C." <capt...@yahoo.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearingDate: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 09:50:49 -0800 
(PST)

I had a new upper rudder bearing made for Touche' from 1/2 inch thick 
Delrin.&#65533; Any decent machinist should be able to do it.&#65533; The next 
one I have made will be from 1 inch or 2 pieces of 1/2 inch to increase the 
bearing surface.
 
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
&#65533;&#65533; From: Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 4:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder bearing
 
Those bearing discs are probably Delrin, aka Acetal. I think Dennis C. and/or 
Joe D.B. scored some made from PEEK or some such...you can make them yourself 
from sheet stock or have a machine shop mill them 
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