2 points!

Rich

> On Dec 11, 2013, at 18:15, Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I recall some inventive lister using a basketball as a jack under the engine, 
> apparently it works really well, especially when you have limited clearance 
> to fit a regular jack.
> 
> 
>> On 11 December 2013 12:16, David <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote:
>> FWIW when I did mine I left the alignment to a professional.
>> 
>> IMHO...money well spent.
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> 1981 40-2
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> 
>> 
>> From: r...@sailpower.ca
>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:45:45 -0400
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ engine mounts
>> 
>> Josh:
>> 
>> I just had a look at mounts on the PYI site: 
>> http://www.pyiinc.com/index.php?section=rd_marine&action=engine-mounts&sn=1
>> 
>> Their widget allows you to insert the dimensions of your existing mounts so 
>> you can receive new mounts that should simply replace the  existing units 
>> with no drilling or other fiddling. I trust you completed that exercise and 
>> have received the correct units. Note, they are not stainless but zinc 
>> plated.
>> 
>> Many of our boats came with some sort of metal members in the engine 
>> mounting system and I suggest leaving well enough alone unless you have good 
>> reason to make changes. If you do one mount at a time, you should be able to 
>> simply undo the bolts, back off the positioning nuts, remove and replace the 
>> old mount and, after all have been replaced, adjust the mounts to position 
>> the engine correctly.
>> 
>> Well before you start, I suggest soaking the mounting bolts and nuts and 
>> your propeller shaft flange connecting nuts and bolts with one of the proven 
>> rust busters previously discussed on this forum.
>> 
>> Also, before you undo the existing mounts or make any changes to the 
>> adjustment nut positions, I suggest you measure and record the distance 
>> between the underside of each engine mounting bracket to the top of the bed 
>> under it and use that measurement to set the top of the bottom nut of each 
>> of the new mounts. Even if an old mount has settled, it will give you a 
>> reasonable starting point to start aligning the engine.
>> 
>> Aligning the engine after installing the new mounts will be another chore. 
>> This involves undoing the bolts connecting the propeller shaft flange to the 
>> engine shaft flange and fiddling with the nuts on the mounts until the shaft 
>> is centred in the shaft tunnel, the flanges are concentric and the engine is 
>> aligned so the clearance between the flanges is equal or within .001 - .002" 
>> all around. This can be a tricky job and will test your patience, but needs 
>> to be done as best as possible. After this is done, the system should be 
>> reasonably vibration free. Ideally the final alignment should be done after 
>> the engine has settled on the new mounts for a few days and the boat is in 
>> the water.
>> 
>> To reduce alignment and vibration problems further, I highly recommend 
>> installing a flexible shaft coupling which will absorb most of the remaining 
>> shaft coupling misalignment which is inevitable, especially when the system 
>> transitions from a static state to an operating, loaded condition.
>> 
>> See: http://www.pyiinc.com/index.php?section=rd_marine&action=shaft-coupling
>> 
>> Google will reveal many discussions of shaft alignment on the web. One of 
>> the simplest illustrations is: http://www.ebasicpower.com/faq/alignib.htm
>> 
>> I also suggest checking your cutless bearing while you are fiddling with the 
>> drive train. Note the spelling, it's not a sword:)
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Rich Knowles
>> INDIGO LF38
>> Halifax, NS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Folks,
>> 
>> I'm in the process of replacing my engine mounts on Sea Hawk, equipped with 
>> the original Yanmar 3HM35F.   I purchased mounts from PYI.  They look to be 
>> quite high quality mounts and appear to be made of SS.  Unlike OEMs, they 
>> are positively captured so your engine won't go flying lose if the rubber  
>> separates.
>> 
>> The previous mounts were not OEM either.  In fact it appears that the PO may 
>> have over loaded them or installed used mounts because the forward pair 
>> appeared very compressed, almost a 1/2 in shorter and kind of inverted on 
>> themselves.  At first glance I thought they were different designs from the 
>> aft pair.  Because they were short it looks like the PO had to build up the 
>> forward foundations with some 5/8 or 1/2 inch starboard (polyethylene) 
>> blocks.
>> 
>> Sitting between the engine mounts and the glassed in foundation of the boat 
>> there are 1/2 inch thick aluminum plates.  They run the full length and 
>> width of each port and starboard foundation rail.  Because of the clearly 
>> redesigned nature of the situation I began to question if these aluminum 
>> plates should be there or if they too were part of the PO's engineering.
>> 
>> I'm looking for thoughts and advice regarding the engine mount replacement 
>> task as well as the appropriateness of the aluminum plates.  It would also 
>> be helpful if anyone has torques specs or design details of the fiberglass 
>> foundation.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Yanmar 3HM35F
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
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