I agree, it is scary.  I may be double-counting the deflection - I'm just
eyeballing it and looking at the apparent diameter which starts as a 1"
shaft or so and shakes enough to look like a 2" shaft when in action.

Thanks for the ideas.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Gary Russell <captnga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow!  1" of deflection is huge!  Anything over 1/16" is out of spec.  It
> is strange that it is so bad in forward, but not in reverse.  Is it
> possible that the engine is moving in one direction in forward, and the
> other in reverse (I know you checked the engine mounts, but did you observe
> the engine while shifting gears)?  Something has to be loose somewhere.  I
> doubt a defective MaxProp can cause that much deflection (I have one) on a
>  1" shaft.
>
> Good luck,
> Gary
> S/V Expresso
> C&C 35 Mk II
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM, William Hall <wh...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I've been troubleshooting quite a vibration problem since I got my boat a
>> year and a half ago. I had hoped it all just needed an alignment, but that
>> does not appear to be the case. I'm hoping that if I present the situation
>> someone on the list may be able to point me in the direction of a fix!
>>
>> The boat is Starfire, my 1985 C&C 37. It has a Yanmar 3HMF. I believe
>> it's the original engine, but was overhauled a few years ago. The previous
>> owner said it was overhauled because it was no longer producing enough
>> power.
>>
>> The engine drives a 2-blade max prop.  There's a line cutter on the
>> shaft. There's an R&D marine elastomeric coupling between the end of the
>> prop shaft and the engine drive shaft.
>>
>> When I bought the boat, we noted a lot of vibration when in gear above
>> about 1800 rpm. The surveyor thought it needed alignment and noted as well
>> that the max prop had more play in it than it was supposed to.  I hauled it
>> that first winter, had the max prop sent back to max prop for overhaul, had
>> new cutlass bearing installed, and when it all came back together in the
>> spring found the same vibration as before.  When running in forward, the
>> prop shaft deflects significantly at higher RPM's (maybe 1" of wobble at
>> the worst point along the drive shaft), and things shake in a way that
>> can't be good.  In neutral, as well as reverse, it runs smooth as silk
>> right up into high rpms.
>>
>> I've since had a few engine / drive people look at it and try to figure
>> it out. The shaft appears to be true. The alignment appears to be right on,
>> as measured by two different mechanics. The elastomeric coupling was a bit
>> worn, so we put a new one in. The engine mounts are substantial and seem
>> good.  The engine people think there's something wrong with the prop that
>> the overhaul didn't fix.
>>
>> What does the list say? Is it the prop? Could there be something wrong in
>> the transmission, say a thrust bearing or something?  In flat calm I can
>> get almost 5 knots without too much worry of breaking things, but into a
>> sea or wind I'd really like to have the option to use more power.  What
>> would you try?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the thoughts.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bill
>>
>> 1985 C&C 37 - Starfire
>> Stamford, CT
>>
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