It works better from above. I would NOT try and run it though. As you correctly mentioned, there is no room for a lot of liquids in there. You need to crank the engine with the injectors OUT and blow the stuff back out before you try and run the engine.
Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of sam.c.sal...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 5:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F low compression I'd think twice about removing injectors to pour any sort of liquid into the combustion chambers. Diesels ignite by high compression. They achieve this by having very little clearance between piston and cylinder head. Oil is virtually incompressible so you run a real risk of a hydraulic lock or worse a bent connecting rod. Put the snake oil in the sump! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta From: Josh Muckley Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:38 PM To: C&C List Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F low compression Yep that's my plan. On Apr 11, 2014 2:02 PM, "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov <mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > wrote: Works great on Atomic 4s. I am not sure how I would use it on a diesel without access to the cylinders. You might have to remove injectors or glowplugs. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:14 AM To: C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F low compression Joe, Does it work or is that just what the label says? I would use it the same way except maybe roll the engine by hand first to release some of the oil. Josh On Apr 11, 2014 11:09 AM, "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov <mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > wrote: Marvel Mystery Oil has been unsticking rings since the 1920s, but I am not sure how to use it with a diesel. For a gas engine you remove the sparkplugs and pour some in. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:01 AM To: C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F low compression Bill, Mine was smoking a bit last season too but I attributed it to an incorrectly adjusted Max-prop. My hypothesis may have mislead me to not recognize a low power condition. Anybody ever use any of the snake oil products that are supposed to free stuck rings? "Rislone Compression Restore and Ring Seal" is just one of many I came across. The ones you pour in the cylinder seem more legit than the ones you add to the oil. Josh On Apr 11, 2014 10:48 AM, "Bill Coleman" <colt...@verizon.net <mailto:colt...@verizon.net> > wrote: This is very interesting. The Landfall 39 here in Erie that Lloyd Lippe in TX bought smoked a lot. The Previous owner was a C&C dealer in the day, and had a yard. I talked to the manager once, he said they did everything to this engine to figure out the smoking problem and could never solve it. I’ll bet you are right on about the stuck rings. I am not sure if it ever cleared up for Lloyd. Bill Coleman C&C 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of bria...@aol.com <mailto:bria...@aol.com> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:10 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F low compression A thought on Josh's 3HM35F engine issues.... My "new to me" boat had been on the hard for years (4+, at least), and required a emptying and cleaning of the fuel tank, new filters, and a rebuild of the injection pump just to get my YANMAR 4JH-TE started. It seemed to run fine, and we ran it for many hours at various speeds dockside, then changed the oil and filter again. Still more smoke than I would like in the exhaust. In any case, pressed for time, I set out for return to Virginia from Gulf Coast, Florida. In the first 8 hours of running time, used more than 1/2 quart of oil, then something changed. Less smoke in the exhaust, much more power, smoother idle. >From that point on used no more oil on the whole trip up to Virginia. At least >65 more hours of running time. I suspect my engine had stuck rings, and that the combination of running it and fresh oil "unstuck" them. Perhaps this applies to Josh's engine, as well, although I'm not sure how he can run it if it won't start. According to my diesel mechanic, the engine should start and run with the compression he has, just won't produce much power, and may smoke. I'm thinking his starting problem is elsewhere and would suspect the injection pump. Bill MYSTY Landfall 39 Virginia In a message dated 4/11/2014 5:19:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, muckl...@gmail.com <mailto:muckl...@gmail.com> writes: Hey folks, It appears that I have low compression (130psi and 160psi) on 2 cylinders. During the first start of the season the engine started rough and powered the boat just long enough to get to the travel lift and then stalled when I throttled down. I did not attempt to restart because I was in the lift well. Upon relaunch, 5 days later, the engine just won't catch. It kinda acts like it wants to, which I assume is the single cylinder that has enough compression to fire. An additional symptom was unusually high crankcase pressure as indicated by the dipstick that ejected from the engine. A zip-tie was enough to secure it for the trip to haul-out. I have ensured fuel and spray pattern. Changed and cleaned injectors. Tried starting fluid. Attempted to use hot air at the air intake. Cleaned/removed air cleaner. Checked valve lash/operation. Checked exhause elbow. Checked compression. Stuck rings seem to be the most common diagnosis. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. I think the bigger decision for me and the question for y'all is, what should I do from here. Rebuild? Replace? If I replace should I modernize or stick with a remanufactured 3HM35? If I modernize, should I stick with 30hp or go for something bigger. I fear that anything other than a 3HM35F will cause delays due to configuration and fit. Is it worth it or is that fear unfounded? If I rebuild should I do it myself? I fear a long turnaround and more delays. As you can probably tell I am leaning towards replacing with a remanufactured 3HM35F but I also don't want to miss other opportunities. 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