I hear you. Touché's mast blocks are very close to mast.  No way you could pull 
the halyard outward. 

I'd definitely have to go with the apsltd set up. 

Dennis C.

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> On Apr 15, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dennis,
> On our 34R, the halyards exit the mast high up and run to mast blocks at the 
> collar well away from the mast, so a tug would probably pull the line into 
> the camcleat.  I recently mounted a camcleat on the mast well below the exit 
> for my main halyard so I can control it there.  Tensioning the line with the 
> winch pulls it out of the camcleat.
> 
> The flipped camcleat might work on our boat if it was mounted higher up and 
> closer to the exit, so the man jumping the halyard would need to pull it away 
> from the mast more to engage the camcleat?  Like working a window shade cord. 
>  I'm considering adding another camcleat and not sure which is better?
> 
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Atlantic City, NJ
> 
> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
> To: "CnClist" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 1:07:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops
> 
> Thanks, Andy
> 
> That's slick.  Here's the link:  
> <http://www.apsltd.com/c-6176-spinnaker-halyard-cam-base.aspx>
> 
> I might order one of those.  
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Try the APS spinnaker halyard mast base. It essentially turns the cleat 
>> around and when you haul in the tail in the cockpit and cleat it there a tug 
>> pops the halyard out of the mast cleat. Works very well on the J/80.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA    02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>> On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:58, "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My mast is set up with the cam cleat for spin halyard as well.  It then goes 
>> back to cockpit thru winch and clutch as you have described.  Works well 
>> when mast/foredeck person is aware of it and uses it.  Does tend to go into 
>> the cam cleat even when hoisted from cockpit and I have lost track of the 
>> number of times a takedown was delayed because of the mast cam cleat. If 
>> mast/foredeck person is consistent and on the ball should not be a problem 
>> however on smaller boats where this is foredeck person and no mast person 
>> the foredeck person is usually busy tripping the guy and unless they had 
>> checked the mast cam cleat before going fwd to trip the guy the delay will 
>> happen again
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> All that said it certainly does speed up the launch
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> Nut Case
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:16 PM
>> To: CnClist
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Offset them an inch or two so they are not directly in the line between the 
>> exit and the turning block.  That reduces the potential for the halyard to 
>> inadvertently slip into the cleat.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> The Port side goes aft to a clutch, and the SB is handled at the mast base.
>> 
>> That is a really good idea, thanks, I think I will add a couple of those.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill Coleman
>> 
>> C&C 39
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C.
>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:59 AM
>> To: CnClist
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> Assuming your spin halyard is run aft, I've crewed on boats that have a cam 
>> cleat on the mast that can temporarily stop the halyard. The mast person is 
>> the only one doing the hoist.  Eliminates the pit person having to tail the 
>> halyard.  Once the chute is up, the halyard tail can be pulled through the 
>> rope clutch.  Just have to remember to release it from the cam cleat before 
>> the drop.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It can be set up so it pops out of the cleat when the halyard is ground 
>> tight by a cabin top winch.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> 
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> We are usually light handed on crew, and it is a big sail.  If I had 8 great
>> crew maybe I would be apt to launch bare in heavier air, but mostly we
>> don't.
>> Once on one of our Fall Cruise across the lake, one of the guys
>> instinctively grabbed the Spinnaker halyard harder as it started to get
>> away, and got some very bad burns, and it was only blowing 15. I like the
>> control and relative safety of a banded sail.
>> 
>> 
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