Allen, >From one C&C 30 mkII to another, I *would not* go the route of the Alpen Glow overhead lights. In my opinion, they may be fine for the older, somewhat more traditionally designed boats with lots of little teak bits, but the integrated lights in the headliner of the Robert Ball era boats are *integral* to the interior. I would use the Alpenglow reading lamps, which seem nice (though pretty darn expensive), but I would replace the overheads with something that fits underneath the diffuser in the headliner.
I've opted for the easy way and bought the Marinebeam led fluorescent replacement bulbs, which fit into the existing fixtures. We've used them main cabin, in the head and also the aft cabin on our 30-2 and are quite happy with them. We've opted for the middle color temperature of the three. I would not go with the warmest temp. Of course there are other solutions, but this seemed the most cost effective with a minimal amount of dickering. The reading lights on the 30-2...well they are kind of cheap and throw a bit of glare. That is something I consider replacing in time. Best, Kevin Kevin Driscoll Portland, Oregon 503 // 875 // 3493 On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM, allen <allenmi...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Finally got on Septima Thursday last. Wind was howling, but at least > there was no rain. It's imagineering time, so I looked first at the > formed areas in the headliner where the two age fluorescent fixtures > reside. I want to replace them with the Alpenglow LED fixtures you used. > The LED units measure 10 X 6 X 2 inches. The openings are 13.5 X 8 X 2 > inches. I want to set the LED fixtures as flush to the headliner as > possible for head clearance reasons. I'm 6' 4" and those teak corners look > sharp. How did you mount yours so they look professionally done? > > I'm looking to convert to all LED in one fell swoop, the convenience lamps > for the sole, the reading lamps, the head and the nav station gooseneck. > Any other pitfalls I should avoid? > > I'm also checking out the group suggestions for refrigeration and took the > measurements for that project too. > > Allen Miles > S/V *Septima* > 30-2 > Hampton, VA > > *From:* Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:32 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL > > I don’t always agree with the things I read in Practical Sailor, but I > have to agree with them that these are about the best interior lights > available for general illumination in your cabin. > > > > I’ve had a low power Alpenglow fluorescent fixture on my 25 for more than > a decade. I like the quality of the illumination, the low power > consumption, and the nice teak fixture. My experience was a large part of > the decision to put two of the LED fixtures on my 38. > > > > All of the fixtures I purchased have high (9W for the fluorescent) and low > (6 or 7W) power for white light, and a separate red light with 2 low power > settings. I habitually leave the lowest power red lights on when sailing at > night so I can find the beer or a snack and move around the cabin without > bumping into things. > > > > Others on the list have other solutions for low power consumption lighting > – and may well have paid less than I did. The LED fixtures were around $130 > each. But I spent a half hour or less on the installation process and I > don’t need to worry about a source for spare parts if I ever need them. > > > > I’m quite happy with the lights. > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * > David > *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 5:17 PM > *To:* CNC CNC > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL > > > > Rick, > > Do you like the Alpenglows? > > David F. Risch > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > ------------------------------ > > From: rickbr...@earthlink.net > To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:43:16 -0500 > Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL > > Alex; > > > > I second Dennis’ recommendation for MarineBeam.com. I have also used > Superbrightleds.com as a source with good results for replacement for > incandescent bulbs in the cabin. And as I’ve said before, I put Alpenglow > LED fixtures in the cabin in place of the OEM fluorescent lights. The only > problem I have had in the 3 or so years I’ve had LED bulbs on the boat has > been with the PAR bulbs that are in the light fixtures containing my > steaming and foredeck lights and my spreader lights. The heat sink on the > LED replacement bulbs is slightly larger than the reflector on the halogen > bulbs that came in the fixture, so the fit isn’t quite right and I need to > install the LED bulbs without the lens that came in the fixture. No > failures so far, but I had to go up and reseat one of the spreader lights > last spring before it would go on. > > > > Regarding nav lights, I’m not sure about Transport Canada requirements – > you guys have some regs that seem frickin strange to me. But as far as the > USCG compliance goes you should have no problems. > > > > The USCG requires that the manufacturer use nav lights that comply with > USCG requirements when building the boat. Many light manufacturers will put > something on their fixtures that say they comply with the requirements. But > the USCG neither approves nor disapproves of any light, they only require > that the lights used put out enough lumens to be seen over the range and > arc specified in the ColRegs. > > > > The guy at Marinebeam was really helpful to me when I put LEDs in all my > nav lights. I wanted 5 mile visibility (as for a vessel 65 ft or more), > though the USCG requirement for my boat is only 2 miles. We talked about > what fixtures I had (I recall that you really need to put green LEDs behind > green lenses to meet the requirements because of the temperature/wavelength > of the output of the LEDs) and was able to supply the requested bulbs for > everything except those little red and green “eyeball” fixtures in the stem > of the boat, and even there he was able to supply bulbs to meet the 2 mile > requirement. > > > > Rick Brass > > Washington, NC > > > > *From:* CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] > *On Behalf Of *Dennis C. > *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 1:14 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL > > > > Go cheap and buy lots of spares! Or....you could buy quality and do the > job once. > > Do what you want but if I was buying replacement LED navigation lights, > I'd buy from marinebeam.com. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 11:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL > > > Tons of cheap LEDs on FleaBay. Some are better than others, but for the > $3-$5 or so per bulb I have got a pretty good hit rate. Note that RUNNING > LIGHTS are a special case, depending on how legal you want to be. > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex > Giannelia > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:27 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL > > I am now moving into replacing my incandescent bulbs all around with LED's > so is there an economical set of conversion bulbs which use the bases that > will fit the old 12VDC sockets? I read some cases require compliance with > USCG or TRANSPORT CANADA codes. > > Alex Giannelia > CC 35-II 1974 to be renamed after re-launch TORONTO, Ontario > > ag@@airsensing.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by > the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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