Allen,

They are 12" long, T-5's ( T5 = *5*/8" diameter; T8 = 8/8" or 1" dia). I
sent my order confirmation from Marinebeam to your email, off list.





Kevin Driscoll
Portland,  Oregon
503  //  875  //  3493


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:35 AM, allen <allenmi...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>  Kevin,
>
> How long are our tubes?  I might order a few just to see how they work out.
>
> Allen
>
>  *From:* Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 22, 2014 1:39 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
>
> Allen,
>
> From one C&C 30 mkII to another, I *would not* go the route of the Alpen
> Glow overhead lights. In my opinion, they may be fine for the older,
> somewhat more traditionally designed boats with lots of little teak bits,
> but the integrated lights in the headliner of the Robert Ball era boats are
> *integral* to the interior. I would use the Alpenglow reading lamps,
> which seem nice (though pretty darn expensive), but I would replace the
> overheads with something that fits underneath the diffuser in the
> headliner.
>
> I've opted for the easy way and bought the Marinebeam led fluorescent
> replacement bulbs, which fit into the existing fixtures. We've used them
> main cabin, in the head and also the aft cabin on our 30-2 and are quite
> happy with them. We've opted for the middle color temperature of the three.
> I would not go with the warmest temp. Of course there are other solutions,
> but this seemed the most cost effective with a minimal amount of dickering.
>
> The reading lights on the 30-2...well they are kind of cheap and throw a
> bit of glare. That is something I consider replacing in time.
>
> Best,
> Kevin
>
>
>
>   Kevin Driscoll
> Portland,  Oregon
> 503  //  875  //  3493
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM, allen <allenmi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>  Finally got on Septima Thursday last.  Wind was howling, but at least
>> there was no rain.   It's imagineering time, so I looked first at the
>> formed areas in the headliner where the two age fluorescent fixtures
>> reside.  I want to replace them with the Alpenglow LED fixtures you used.
>> The LED units measure 10 X 6 X 2 inches.  The openings are  13.5 X 8 X 2
>> inches.  I want to set the LED fixtures as flush to the headliner as
>> possible for head clearance reasons. I'm 6' 4" and those teak corners look
>> sharp. How did you mount yours so they look professionally done?
>>
>> I'm looking to convert to all LED in one fell swoop, the convenience
>> lamps for the sole, the reading lamps, the head and the nav station
>> gooseneck.  Any other pitfalls I should avoid?
>>
>> I'm also checking out the group suggestions for refrigeration and took
>> the measurements for that project too.
>>
>> Allen Miles
>> S/V *Septima*
>> 30-2
>> Hampton, VA
>>
>>  *From:* Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:32 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
>>
>>  I don’t always agree with the things I read in Practical Sailor, but I
>> have to agree with them that these are about the best interior lights
>> available for general illumination in your cabin.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve had a low power Alpenglow fluorescent fixture on my 25 for more than
>> a decade. I like the quality of the illumination, the low power
>> consumption, and the nice teak fixture. My experience was a large part of
>> the decision to put two of the LED fixtures on my 38.
>>
>>
>>
>> All of the fixtures I purchased have high (9W for the fluorescent) and
>> low (6 or 7W) power for white light, and a separate red light with 2 low
>> power settings. I habitually leave the lowest power red lights on when
>> sailing at night so I can find the beer or a snack and move around the
>> cabin without bumping into things.
>>
>>
>>
>> Others on the list have other solutions for low power consumption
>> lighting – and may well have paid less than I did. The LED fixtures were
>> around $130 each. But I spent a half hour or less on the installation
>> process and I don’t need to worry about a source for spare parts if I ever
>> need them.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m quite happy with the lights.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> David
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 5:17 PM
>> *To:* CNC CNC
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> Do you like the Alpenglows?
>>
>> David F. Risch
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>
>> From: rickbr...@earthlink.net
>> To: capt...@yahoo.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:43:16 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
>>
>> Alex;
>>
>>
>>
>> I second Dennis’ recommendation for MarineBeam.com. I have also used
>> Superbrightleds.com as a source with good results for replacement for
>> incandescent bulbs in the cabin. And as I’ve said before, I put Alpenglow
>> LED fixtures in the cabin in place of the OEM fluorescent lights. The only
>> problem I have had in the 3 or so years I’ve had LED bulbs on the boat has
>> been with the PAR bulbs that are in the light fixtures containing my
>> steaming and foredeck lights and my spreader lights. The heat sink on the
>> LED replacement bulbs is slightly larger than the reflector on the halogen
>> bulbs that came in the fixture, so the fit isn’t quite right and I need to
>> install the LED bulbs without the lens that came in the fixture. No
>> failures so far, but I had to go up and reseat one of the spreader lights
>> last spring before it would go on.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding nav lights, I’m not sure about Transport Canada requirements –
>> you guys have some regs that seem frickin strange to me. But as far as the
>> USCG compliance goes you should have no problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> The USCG requires that the manufacturer use nav lights that comply with
>> USCG requirements when building the boat. Many light manufacturers will put
>> something on their fixtures that say they comply with the requirements. But
>> the USCG neither approves nor disapproves of any light, they only require
>> that the lights used put out enough lumens to be seen over the range and
>> arc specified in the ColRegs.
>>
>>
>>
>> The guy at Marinebeam was really helpful to me when I put LEDs in all my
>> nav lights. I wanted 5 mile visibility (as for a vessel 65 ft or more),
>> though the USCG requirement for my boat is only 2 miles. We talked about
>> what fixtures I had (I recall that you really need to put green LEDs behind
>> green lenses to meet the requirements because of the temperature/wavelength
>> of the output of the LEDs) and was able to supply the requested bulbs for
>> everything except those little red and green “eyeball” fixtures in the stem
>> of the boat, and even there he was able to supply bulbs to meet the 2 mile
>> requirement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Washington, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List 
>> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Dennis C.
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 1:14 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
>>
>>
>>
>> Go cheap and buy lots of spares!  Or....you could buy quality and do the
>> job once.
>>
>> Do what you want but if I was buying replacement LED navigation lights,
>> I'd buy from marinebeam.com.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
>> *To:* "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 11:43 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
>>
>>
>> Tons of cheap LEDs on FleaBay. Some are better than others, but for the
>> $3-$5 or so per bulb I have got a pretty good hit rate. Note that RUNNING
>> LIGHTS are a special case, depending on how legal you want to be.
>>
>> Joe Della Barba
>> Coquina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Alex
>> Giannelia
>> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 12:27 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List LED BULBS IN GENERAL
>>
>> I am now moving into replacing my incandescent bulbs all around with
>> LED's so is there an economical set of conversion bulbs which use the bases
>> that will fit the old 12VDC sockets?  I read some cases require compliance
>> with USCG or TRANSPORT CANADA codes.
>>
>> Alex Giannelia
>> CC 35-II 1974 to be renamed after re-launch TORONTO, Ontario
>>
>> ag@@airsensing.com
>>
>>
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