Thanks Antoine,
 Thanks for the help. I have a question for you. When you and I talked
before you told me you upgraded your standing rigging for off-shore
sailing, Well did you change your spreaders or do anything to sturdy them
up? Both of mine are pined on and will move around a little, like 1/2 to
3/4 of an inch front to back? Is this normal. I had an inspection done by a
rigger and he said my standing rigging looked great and maybe sometime ago
it may have been changed. no reason to worry about the rigging he said. The
port side I can see the chin
He said id not look to be 33 years old to him? I should only replace if its
bad right?
          Anyway back to the sails. I have never used a hank
on reef-able head sail. Should I use this as my working sail and reef in
heavy wind? or would you suggest replacing it with a storm jib? Keep in
mind I will be coastal cruising mostly, Maybe going to the Caribbean an the
Bahama's. If all goes well with the wife maybe other ports of call.

Part of the original question, I was looking for the comfort ratio for the
C&C30 mk1 as far as pitch yaw and roll, compared to other boats its size.
I also wanted to know how well it will do in the waves? How well it
drives threw. How well it recovers.
Did the Rose have a mertec 2 blade folding prop?

My Auxiliary power is a 2gm20F with 20 Gal fuel tank under the steering
helm.
18 Gals of water starboard side under the seat, 10 Gal under the v-birth
13 Gal holding tank.

My inventory looks like this.
1)  Standard working main. Full batten 3 reef points
2)  Racing main. Full batten 3 reef points
3) Asymmetrical cruising spin with sock
4) "Hank on" 110% Head sail with 2 reef points
5) "Hank on" 135%
6) "Hank on"  170%

I guess what I am getting at with all this; My wife have sailed the East
Coast Lady hard for 2 years now. She is a very fun boat. Her acceleration
when the wind picks up if fantastic. I can trim her out on a broad reach
and almost sail hands free. We just have not taken her out on the ocean. We
live some 10 miles from the ocean, Up the Port Royal sound in Beaufort SC.
We both are wondering if we should use this boat as a trainer before moving
to a larger, more ocean capable vessel?  As I said before most of it will
be coastal harbor hopping. With a few 1 to 2 night offshore trips here and
there.  Just trying to bounce the Idea of keeping this boat. She is such a
good boat.

Thanks again.


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Same on the Swan 42 I race on (put together by the sailmaker).  The focus
> there is on performance.
>
> Tim
>
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Sailed a j133 back from Bermuda recently. Prominently taped to the inside
> of the companionway was a pretty neat diagram / graph. X axis was wind
> speed y axis was wind angle (forget if true or apparent). The rectangle was
> filled with multiple adjoining shapes each representing a particular head
> sail or spinnaker. I guess this made it very easy for the racing crew to
> determine when to change sail
>
>
>
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
>
> On Aug 19, 2014, at 13:36, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>  You can find a sail plan as in the drawings and dimensions easy enough,
> but a "this much sail in this much wind" written plan is something I never
> even knew existed until I sailed a charter cat. We had an easier way anyway
> with the big cat - just watch the rudder angle and reef anytime it got to
> 20 degrees.
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Curtis via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:27 PM
> *To:* Josh Muckley; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C30MK1 sail plan
>
>
>
> Yeeea, Maybe I was not clear on my point.I am kinda just looking for
> written speck's on the boat. I wanted to have it in my book. I wanted the
> official C&C version. I would like to see how the numbers measure up other
> boats. Not looking for sailing advise. I know when to shake one out or the
> fly the kite. That's why I gave an example.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Good point Joe.  I did make the assumption that he was talking about a
> monohull despite referencing a catamaran.
>
> Josh
>
> P.S. So the charter companies don't like seeing their boats sailed
> properly?
>
> On Aug 19, 2014 12:20 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> You are missing a vital point. Charter cats NEED a written sailplan. They
> have little to no steering feel and don't heel until it is too late. If you
> leave too much sail up they might just round up against full rudder, go
> really fast but ruin the sails*, break something, or perhaps capsize. It
> should be very obvious when a C&C needs some sail trim. If you need both
> hands on the wheel to steer and the rail is underwater that is a good hint.
> You also need to know the strength of the sails and the strength of the
> crew. My #1 genoas could be used off the wind in a lot more wind than would
> be good for the light cloth. My spinnaker is a light air sail for us while
> cruising. We don't have the manpower to handle a heavy air spinnaker run
> with just my wife and I to do all the work.
>
>
>
> *do not show charter company video of their boat doing 15 knots. Just
> sayin'
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Aug 19, 2014 10:32 AM, "Curtis via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Can anybody give me the sailplan for my boat? What sail to use under what
> wind condition. What is the comfort rating, tern over ratio. I have no
> paper work with this boat that shows this information. It would be nice to
> have a printed version of this information.
>
>
>
> example on sail -plan
>
> The sail plan for a Lagoon 380 in sustained winds is as follows:
>
> *Force 5 winds (up to 22 knots): full sail, both main and jib.*
>
> *Force 6 winds (22 to 26 knots): one reef in the main and full jib.*
>
> *Force 7 winds (27 to 28 knots): one reef in the main and one reef in the
> jib.*
>
> *Force 7 winds (29 to 33 knots): two reefs in both the main and the jib.*
>
> *Force 8 winds (34 to 38 knots): two reefs in the main and three reefs in
> the jib.*
>
> *Force 9 winds (39 to 44 knots): drop mainsail completely and three reefs
> in jib.*
>
> Above 44 knots, all sail is dropped and the mainsail bag and boom will be
> quite enough sail, thank you.
>
> Thanks for your help...
>
> --
>
> *Best regards,*
>
> *Curtis McDaniel, *
>
> *C&C 30-MK1 East Coast Lady*
>
> *Port Royal,*
>
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>
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