I have a '34' centerboard version, which was an option in the early 90s on the 
34 series (including the +, the XL and the R). 


I think the board design was adopted or copied from the 37 which was an earlier 
model but not available new in 1993 (or was out of my price range) one or the 
other!


During the build time of my 34 (between 1993 and 1995), C&C changed the name to 
the 36 (including the +, XL and R) which was identical in hull form AFAIK but 
now had the transom steps. This added confusion but was more consistent with 
the actual LOA of the boat, which is actually 35.5 feet.


This version of the boat rates 120 in our local PHRF fleet and displaces 13,500 
lbs by a load cell measurement. I think the R version rates down in the 80s and 
is claimed to displace ~ 10,000 lbs. Same hull shape, few if any cruising 
amenities and a deep fin keel of about 7.5 ft. Except at a few coastal marinas, 
this kind of draft would require it be kept on a mooring just about anywhere in 
the 'inner banks' of NC.


FWIW


Charlie Nelson
1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
Water Phantom




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From: Ebay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 17, 2014 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38



The 37+ had at least 3 standard keel choices - centerboard, deep and shoal 
wing.  As always people customized them so there are variants on the market.  I 
believe the 34+ was the same although I don't recall ever seeing a centerboard 
version.


John


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On Sep 17, 2014, at 10:40 AM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:




Unless there is such a thing as a centerboard 37, the 6’7” draft is a killer 
for many cruising areas.
Other than that the 37 is very niceJ
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Josh Muckley 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:49 PM
To: Berry Fox; C&C List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Landfall 38
 
My opinion is that the 37+ is a better choice...that's why I bought one.  The 
LF38 usually rates ~140 and the 37+ is ~75.  The trouble with low ratings is 
that you have to be a good enough sailor to sail to them.  Every second counts 
and every mistake can cost you the race.  I had my ass handed to me in a 
friendly race by a Pearson 32.  They rated 168.  It was mostly a down wind run 
and they chose a less down wind angle.  I doesn't hurt that they have a kevlar 
sail and hard bottom paint polished to 1000 grit.
As for pointing the 37+ can point very high and even power through a pinch.  It 
is easy to accidentally pinch up because the boat doesn't realy talk back very 
much.
The C&C 30, the C&C 34+, the C&C 36+ and the C&C 37+ are all very similar 
layout and design.  The C&C 40 seems to be the predecessor to the 37+ and the 
C&C 121 is the successor.
Good luck,
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 16, 2014 9:41 PM, "Berry Fox via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi, I'm seriously considering a LF38.  I'm looking for a performance cruiser 
but also want to race.  The LF38 looks like a great choice but I'm wondering 
about how it sails. I read through the archives and see that several of you 
race....can you give me any insights into how your boats perform?  What do they 
rate in your area and how do they sail to the rating?  How well do they point?  
Any other insights are appreciated.  Thanks in advance,

Dan

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